Graeme and HHN

[Dale Anthony]

Okay, there was a HUGE thing here before but I felt it most of it was kinda a waste of time and as I expected it got views just no posts. Please delete it.

[Grae]

Actually don't delete it. While your post may be gone I did read it this morning when I woke up, and you're right. HHN is supposed to be our home, but our constant arguments and disagreements are tearing this site apart. We need to try better to get along with each other and be more tolerant of how other people act.

Dalton, I don't hate you, I think you're an okay kind of guy, but I heard some bad things about you from people, and a few of the things you said around the recent moderator selection incident really annoyed me, so I guess I let that get the better of me. Let's please put this behind us, if you still want to. I'm sorry for what I said, I can't change that I said it because once it's done it's done and I can't do anything about that.

Thanks for saying what you did, I am sorry, let's put the incident behind us and try to make HHN as best a place as we possibly can.

[Dale Anthony]

Actually don't delete it. While your post may be gone I did read it this morning when I woke up, and you're right. HHN is supposed to be our home, but our constant arguments and disagreements are tearing this site apart. We need to try better to get along with each other and be more tolerant of how other people act.

Dalton, I don't hate you, I think you're an okay kind of guy, but I heard some bad things about you from people, and a few of the things you said around the recent moderator selection incident really annoyed me, so I guess I let that get the better of me. Let's please put this behind us, if you still want to. I'm sorry for what I said, I can't change that I said it because once it's done it's done and I can't do anything about that.

Thanks for saying what you did, I am sorry, let's put the incident behind us and try to make HHN as best a place as we possibly can.

It's okay Graeme, to be honest to everyone here, yes I've backstabbed before I did that though, I had everyone pointing the finger at me for spamming the place up, not to mention making a mess of it. So I ain't surprised people don't have good things to say. I'm an underdog here and I don't think that'll change, that's why I need the help of the other people on the forum to bring everyone together. Cause in the end, what can we do apart from shout at each other? This place used to be different. When I was Yoshiki, I rarely posted for fear of spamming up such a nice site...and well, nowadays not only have I spammed but the site has become sour. There's nothing anyone here is really doing about it. We can post all we want but in the end we just cause arguments. If anyone agrees with wanting to get people to for once not fight, just for the sake of a month, then that would be great.

I mean yeah, have your reasons to hate someone and argue in the mature section but for godsake, it's nearly Christmas. Maybe just this month we could be a little...different.

Like I said, I've backstabbed alot of people here in the past...dunno why, never will. Maybe I'm just a coward but to be honest, I'm trying to change that. Mostly because my best friends are here in the form of Lei and Midi and Chris, Niel, AJ etc. and because there's a girl I really like here, who considers leaving cause of all this. In the end though, I'm just sorry to you all.

[Kai Hiwatari]

Christmas is a time of forgiving.
New Year is a time of renewal, a fresh start.

Perhaps we should consider this.
Begin anew.
Forget past mistakes.
Be friends?

(sorry if my oppinion wasn't supposed to be viewed)

[Rai]

Kai's right. Shall we wipe the slate (so to speak) and start anew?

[Dale Anthony]

Nah nah Kai, that's the idea. Join in with the thread lol. I totally agree with you though, maybe just for a month or so we can sort everything out.

I know Tharrick still hasn't had some past things with Zidane sorted though...so that kinda doesn't help. But in terms of everywhere else, I think we could get on fine yeah. Have the old-ish HHN back.

EDIT - Well...as long as I'm not killed by people or anything, I'm for it lol.

[Kai Hiwatari]

I'M FOR IT!!!.....dalton, make a poll and see how many people are for starting afresh with HHN. As a bid to get the old, loving happy HHN back ^^

[Dale Anthony]

I'M FOR IT!!!.....dalton, make a poll and see how many people are for starting afresh with HHN. As a bid to get the old, loving happy HHN back ^^

Hmm...well to be honest, my threads aren't very often read and replied to. Hmm...well, I'll see what I can do. ^_^

[Grae]

You make a thread and I'll sticky it ;)
I want the old HHN back, HHN used to be a whole, now it's divided in two, Tharrick's side, and my side. My side might be losing, but heck, I'm tired of fighting, I don't want to argue, I used to talk to Tharrick, on MSN, sometimes we'd just shoot the breeze, we don't do that anymore, and to be honest it sucks. Sometimes Lei too, we used to be friends, we used to talk, and we helped Kai through some bad shit that was going down with Ryodu, I miss those days. I want my old HHN back.


I miss my friends.

[Kai Hiwatari]

i miss my friends too.....You guys were ALWAYS there helping me when I needed you most......

[Dale Anthony]

To be honest, I didn't know you guys were all friends originally. Ah well...kinda shows I don't go back too far. I have only been here in general since last November like lol. Thanks to Hender and Chris for bringing me. :P

[Rai]

I remember the good ol' days of HHN... that black background was easier on the eyes too.

This might sound dramatic, but I've got to do some research into the past.

[Auron-X]

(Yeah I read your post, just too lazy to reply cause like yeah no else did so I thought I might wait or something like that, xP). Man am I missing something cause it sounds like there's been a goddamn war? I mean sure i've read/seen some "flared" arguement but they didn't seem to be TOO bad in the end O_o I'm guessin' most of this is related to the HHN Meetup thread (had to ask)? I saw some fights going on in there =/ And if we really wanted the old HHN back then we'd need that nice skin =D And the every-now-and-then downtimes, xD.

[Dale Anthony]

lol. Well, I was thinking HHN in general when I wrote that. There's been seperate arguments but it's always boiled down to two sides and I've always been on either one and never stuck to the same one. I think Tharrick is great, I've never hated Grae, Lei is one of my best friends and I have feelings for Dom, so whenever the two sides do argue I'm always afraid of which one I mostly agree with. With recent arguments I've agreed with alot of Tharrick's views but at the time that's because I did generally agree but afterwards kinda feared what Dom would think just incase. Then I've also argued with Lei and Tharrick before and to be honest, it's no better arguing that way aswell. I argue enough with Lei as it is and I really love her as a friend and don't wanna have to decide between a girl I like and one of my greatest friends everytime something spirals off. But in most cases I do, because I generally agree with one or the other.

To top it off, alot of people outside of the arguments are stressing themselves and I had no idea what to do...so thought I'd write something lol.

[Tharrick]

I think Tharrick is great
Woohoo, the recognition I deserve :P

And on a more serious note, it's good to see people are trying to put their differences behind 'em. If everyone else is burying the hatchet, I'll try to do the same (and not in people's heads, because that's wrong and unfriendly)
Truce, guys?

[Rai]

Truce!

Although I don't particularly not get on with anyone here.

[Dale Anthony]

Woohoo, the recognition I deserve :P

And on a more serious note, it's good to see people are trying to put their differences behind 'em. If everyone else is burying the hatchet, I'll try to do the same (and not in people's heads, because that's wrong and unfriendly)
Truce, guys?

Well, we're giving it a go lol. I'm really grateful for that, thanks Tharrick and glad Graeme is okay with the idea too. :)

We'll just see how it goes from here. :P

[Auron-X]

Yeah like I promise i'll stop =P xP.
Man I argue with my mates all the time (as in real life), sometimes get a bit serious, but in the end like we just end up forgetting about it (not like it never happened just, who cares?). So yeah, don't see why you "friends" "argue" SO much O_o But whatever, let's forget about that.

[Grae]

Woohoo, the recognition I deserve :P

And on a more serious note, it's good to see people are trying to put their differences behind 'em. If everyone else is burying the hatchet, I'll try to do the same (and not in people's heads, because that's wrong and unfriendly)
Truce, guys?

Agreed! I miss having you as a mate. It's true, I only wanted to really get involved with the meetup again because Lei said she would, and it's fair that you guys feared I wasn't responsible after I dropped responsibility. I was in the wrong and it's totally cool now you're still going ahead with it and all. Let's call it a day on the arguments and try to be friends like we used to.

And Auron, the arguments here have gone way too far, people have been getting way too angry, and effectively I've been kicked off the HHN trip for being a bitch (which sucks, because I really wanted to go to Blackpool =/)
Now i've realised we've gone way too far, we've totally pushed the boundaries and it's time we take note and try to mend the broken bridges created by all the arguing.

[Kai Hiwatari]

I think....and you dont have to agree....that since a truce has been called, and friendships are being rekindled, that no-one should be denied the meet up trip. We are starting anew, and because of that, we should welcome each other, and each others differences, with open arms.....

[Chris]

Did some people get visited by the three ghosts of Christmas last night?! O_o

WHAT have I missed!?!

But yeah, I've said and done things I shouldn't have, I admit that, and I think we should just put it behind us 'cause we're only hurting ourselves - I mean what use has arguing got?

[Tharrick]

Did some people get visited by the three ghosts of Christmas last night?! O_o
So THAT'S who they were.
I regret killing them and leaving them in the dumpsters now:(

[Grae]

:/ Well I gave them some tea and biscuits, so at least they didn't die hungry.