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Auron-X
28-03-2006, 13:21
Now by other MMORPG's I mean most and basically the typical MMORPG we see today, these being: Final Fantasy XI, World of Warcraft, Everquest, etc.
Now i'm starting to become more fond of GW then WoW (meaning GW might be more of my favourite MMORPG than WoW =O I know, scary isn't it?).
And yeah anyway, this thread is basically about the whole concept of Guild Wars vs. the typical MMORPG.

Guilds Wars is ALOT different to other MMORPG's, the whole entire concept of it is alot different, first off you might notice the level cap is only 20.
Yes, you might think it is rather low, I thought it was rather low too when I first started.

Well Guild Wars is VERY dependent on your build aka. skills you have in your skill list (you can't change whilst outside a town (area where it's only your and your party + there are hostile creatures) or like when your in a mission, PvP battle, etc) and the armour and weapons you have.
Where as in other MMORPG's you can basically own someone because they're a low level, I mean a level 15 could beat a level (maybe that's a bit of an exaggeration, but you get what I mean) if they were a decent enough player and just had a overall better build and whatnot.

It's very evolved from the typical MMORPG's (not saying they're all crap, I still like the idea of being an ub3r high level and because of that I can just go and do the low level stuff REAL easy, or you know, the stuff several levels lower than you) as well.

And you can't really solo in GW, as alot of the enemies are in mobs and in the later areas everything's level 20-30 (whilst you still remaing lvl 20), except with the "henchies" which are just NPC that you can add to your party.
There's one for each class (except in the first "area" there's only 4 diff classes) and for the Monk, it's a bit more "detailed" (Healer and Protection monk). And in the next expansion there's even more henchies, all diff. types of that class (or y'know diff. builds of that class).

Yeah, basically GW is a very evolved MMORPG's, though there are some things which other MMORPG's have which are better than it obviously. And yeah it's VERY PvP based, though still PvE.
There are some things about GW that WoW beats, but yeah... the whole "concept" of it (as I have said before xD) is alot different and might just start something, like no more grinding all the time and whatnot.
Though once you've finished the game, done the "green-farming" areas and done a fair bit of PvP, kinda gets boring (and then that's when the expansion comes in).

Like with WoW, I had a Night Elf Hunter (main), I didn't really have any specific armour for anything or a specific build. It was just, the best armour/weapons I happen to buy or get from loot, i'd just use that - not really seek for anything special.

And for my skills, it wasn't a special build, it just put in whatever skills I thought were best, so like some bow-shooting-whatever skills (Hunter - bow lol) that had some nice effects, some "preparation" skills or whatever and a trap or two, or something like that lol.
But with GW it's alot different, though it is quite limited on the armour and weapons (a class has it's own set of armour which you don't find, you just "craft" using materials you "salvage" from various items and the pay money to the crafter to make them which is just some NPC), maybe not so much on the weapons but I do like the whole "weapon modifications", which for those who don't know, the two handed weapons (except for swords) you can add a mod. to it, they vary from the effect and by how much.

Like a staff, there are two types - Staff Wrapping and Staff Head, to get these you can either (obviously) buy it off someone or find a nice loot that has that weapon mod then you "salvage" it and get the mod (but the weapon disappears).
You can't stack 'em or anything, like if you have X Staff Wrapping and add Y Staff Wrapping, it replaces the old one.
Yeah... anyways back on topic, basically GW is well a very much different MMORPG and isn't too dependent on the level (obviously a level 20 could own a level 1 xD) and whatnot, it's very well... "evolved" so to say lol.
Yeah I really forget what I was going on about.... anyone else played GW? Now you won't really notice this if your still under level 20, maybe some of it but yeah....

Dreyga
29-03-2006, 16:05
I have really given some thought about getting this game. based on what you have said i do plan on getting it now are there many differnt servers??

Belazor
29-03-2006, 19:24
The enter key is your friend.
I have the game but its on hold, I didn't really like the graphics on it. Too bulky for my tastes, I like it smooth like Lineage II. I might just pick it back up later though...

Auron-X
30-03-2006, 10:12
Not sure what you mean by "bulky"? You graphics could of been on low? Which I put my graphic settings on since my computer majorly sucks ass xD.
Yeah the graphics are fine/pretty good for me, not saying it's liek full realistic liek some other games out there, but neither are any of the other MMORPG's.

Dreyga: There's only servers for each "region", so there's one for America, Europe, Japan, Korea, Taiwan (yeah I was liek wtf too when I saw that).
Since when your inside a town your with other players, but when your outside a town in an area with enemies, etc it's only you and your party. And to go between these areas you go through a portal (aka. loading screen, not that long depending on decent your comp. is.
Your average comp. would prob. only take a few seconds - minutes at the loading screen, depending on what/where the area is (so if it's a big mission/city/etc might be a bit longer)).

So when you go inside a town, there's "mini-servers" called "Districts", so for example it'd be like "[insert name here] English District-1" and as for the numbers, they can go as high as 12.
If there are too many people in English District 1 then I guess the server automatically makes an English District 2 and so forth.
And yes you can join other language districts (so say for example your in the European servers, you can join liek the French or German districts, just won't understand a word what's they're saying =P).

There's also International Districts which are districts everyone from around the world can join, when you go into a town it automatically puts you in a district, depending on how many people and where you're from (prob. just based on what the game is - so if you bought it in France, it's recognize you from France).
Though you can map to other towns (first you must have been there already) and there you can choose which district to go into.

alexanderpas
31-03-2006, 23:31
the enter key is indeed your friend... too bad it's mine and not yours ;)

Auron-X
01-04-2006, 04:22
lol. It's not like i'm doing an assignment or anything for school, whereas I would space them as paragraphcs, etc =P AND I DON'T KNOW WHERE TO PUT THEM =( Yeah I came to this page and was like.... "wow I never knew I typed it like that" or whatever.... xD

alexanderpas
05-04-2006, 19:55
just put them after every dot ;)

but, let's get back to GW, i think you said it clearly why GW is mazta!

alexanderpas
18-07-2006, 23:21
*** NEWSFLASH ***
Areanet has confirmed that the third installment of guildwars is called "Guildwars Nightfall" and to add more, there will be a PvP preview event for all current GW and GWF players from July 28th till July 30th....

this will make GW the MMORPG with the most stand-alone (and also mergable) chapters!
*** END OF NEWSFLASH ***

you can now choose between 7 different possibilities of GW combo's and a stunning 90 diferent profession combinations if you own GWF and GWN

Auron-X
19-07-2006, 11:16
Nightfall will be based in the land of Elona, which many of you may recognize if you've played Prophecies and been up to the Crystal Desert The Elonians are people who travelled there to try and "ascend", but failed. You still see many of them around there, but in their ghostly forms


The two new classes are Dervish, a scythe-wielding holy warrior and Paragon, guardian angels of the Elonian people which uses a spear while also having many enchants/hexes. The Paragon also uses many "shouts" such as teh Warrior, so it has similar features to the warrior.
Yeah there have/going to be three PVP weekends in a row. Last weekend for the GWFC Open Event, this weekend (dunno why, but they do have random PVP weekends at times) and next weekend so you can try out the two new classes and well, meh just read this quote taken directly from GW site: "In addition to testing out the new professions and arenas, players will also be able to compete for items that will be exchangeable for a variety of rewards throughout the weekend event."

TriggerHappi:D
20-08-2006, 05:04
Hmm...So I guess Guild Wars is the FFXI here, eh? A lot of you guys play it? There must be a bit of you playing seeing as how Auron is like, preaching about it. xD So it's that good? Should I get it? It's about time I joined some of you guys in an MMORPG. Would it be a good idea to still get FFXI? Or is it like, completely empty now?

Dusk
20-08-2006, 10:36
FFXI is pretty much still busy, more people play FFXI then they do GuildWars. Though if you wanna play a really good game, get world of warcraft <3

alexanderpas
20-08-2006, 20:53
GuildWars is for the people that want to play a High-Quality MMORPG, and don't want to pay monthly ;)
updating GW:
if you want to update GW completely, run "gw.exe -image"

TriggerHappi:D
21-08-2006, 03:16
Oh, yeah, you don't pay monthly right? But you do pay like, once, right? And how many character slot things are there? And are there a lot of different classes?

I guess I could get all this information off the official site, but I prefer this way.

Tsuji
21-08-2006, 13:10
Its all about preference really Trigger, the cool thing about GW is, no monthly fee, and I consider GW a very relaxing game compared to even WoW, and deffinetly FFXI, so if I feel like playing a nice relaxing game, I just go on GW and have some fun =P Its what I like about it really, no hard-core competition like in FFXI really =P WoW has some good gameplay (Like jumping and swimming! =D xD) so you should just check it out at least with the free trial =o As for FFXI, consider it alot more like "If you ain't E-peen, you're a noob" game, which basicly creates a ton of competition for good gear, being a good player etc etc, quests are almost useless in the game unless you are going for Fame for cities or increasing your inventory space, otherwise it's rather useless o-o But some missions in the game are actually fun enough, like getting higher ranks on your character, and the storylines are ussually very interesting (Rise of the Zilart and Chains of Promathia), and always when you finish some sort of mission in those expansion packs, you ussually get some rare item that you just cant get anywhere else, which sort of drives players to play on and on and on and on lol xD But the biggest downer of FFXI IMO, is the actual EXP you need. You might need like, for example my level 65, you need 26K to get 66, then another 27K For the next, while you might get 170-260-320 EXP a mob, and they can take maybe...1-3 minutes to kill, so try to imagine that @@; And just for the record, at 75 you need around 44K EXP :P So it just takes an absolute age to get to a level you like T~T That's the one big downer of FFXI imo, but it's still got some good points which make it worth playing(Friends being the main one there).
So, overall, its about preference IMO, and I really dont know what one I like better over another lol xD

alexanderpas
21-08-2006, 14:54
Time for the Guild Wars vs. Part

Oh, yeah, you don't pay monthly right? But you do pay like, once, right?
Its all about preference really Trigger, the cool thing about GW is, no monthly fee
The normal edition of a Campaign has a default price of €44,99 for each Campaign, currently two Campaigns (Prophecies and Factions) are out and a third Campaign (Nightfall) will soon follow.
Each Campaign is playable as a complete stand alone game, or you can choose to combine any given combination of Campaign allowing your character to travel between the continents of those campaigns.

And how many character slot things are there?
A sinle Campaign will have 4 characterslots, and adding a Campaign to an existing account will grant you two more slots, so you'll have 6 slots if you own both Prophecies and Factions
also you can buy additional characterslots for €8,99

And are there a lot of different classes?
There are 6 core classes and each chapter (except for Prophecies.) will have two classes of their own.
however since you're required to choose a second class, there are 30 combinations when you own only the first part, 56 if you own one of the additional Campaigns and 90 combinations if you are also going to buy the third campaign.

quests are almost useless in the game unless you are going for Fame for cities or increasing your inventory space, otherwise it's rather useless o-o But some missions in the game are actually fun enough, like getting higher ranks on your character, and the storylines are ussually very interesting (Rise of the Zilart and Chains of Promathia), and always when you finish some sort of mission in those expansion packs, you ussually get some rare item that you just cant get anywhere else, which sort of drives players to play on and on and on and on lol xD
Quest (and more importantly Missions) are pretty important in GW as it is the only way to reach some places in the storyline, and also the easiest way to earn experience and skills.
But the biggest downer of FFXI IMO, is the actual EXP you need. You might need like, for example my level 65, you need 26K to get 66, then another 27K For the next, while you might get 170-260-320 EXP a mob, and they can take maybe...1-3 minutes to kill, so try to imagine that @@; And just for the record, at 75 you need around 44K EXP :P So it just takes an absolute age to get to a level you like T~T That's the one big downer of FFXI imo,
that's why GW has a level-cap of only 20, however, reaching this level, (which can be done withing a couple of days with ease;)) is not the end of the game, it's merely the begin of a new part in the game

I advise everyone to start with Prophecies as this will give you a solid base to explore the six core professions.

also GW doesn't need time-consuming updates sinse it has an in-line streaming update service, ensuring that you don't need to wait for updates to load for area's you've never accessed, and only updating the parts you'll need!
however, this can be bypassed, see my spoiler in the previous post ;)

Ericc
31-08-2006, 23:02
Guild Wars was a great game to occupy my time during the 4 or 5 months i before I got WoW. Only things i find annoying now after playing wow for months is the enviorment setup where you come upon a ledge and you have to walk two miles away to cross a bridge because you cant jump down the two foot drop. Overall though I'd have to say its a great game with no monthly subscription like WoW has.