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why do you fight? i fight to defend people.
Tharrick
19-04-2006, 22:58
I fight for a large number of reasons. Usually, it's in self-defence, but sometimes there are other reasons. I'd find it very difficult to make a generic 'I fight because of <reason>' statement, because the circumstances are different every time
Brindley
20-04-2006, 00:20
I try not to. I'm a pacifist.
Tharrick
20-04-2006, 00:24
Pacifists irritate me, on principle, because they usually then expect the non-pacifists to fight for them.
England as a country has survived almost a thousand years because we've been so much harder than anyone else, and people who insist that fighting is completely wrong should just drag themselves out back and shoot themselves, because thanks to our military, there are no nazis to do it for them.
I fight if something pisses me off
Brindley
20-04-2006, 19:41
Pacifists irritate me, on principle, because they usually then expect the non-pacifists to fight for them.
England as a country has survived almost a thousand years because we've been so much harder than anyone else, and people who insist that fighting is completely wrong should just drag themselves out back and shoot themselves, because thanks to our military, there are no nazis to do it for them.
We're idealists. If the world was populated by people who didn't fight, then there would be no need to drag ourselves out back. And last time I checked, having ideals was a good thing!
I personally don't want people to fight the good fight for me. I don't need it. I either talk my way out of or avoid conflict.
Tharrick
20-04-2006, 20:03
There's nothing wrong with avoiding conflict, but it's not always possible, and when conflict comes you have to be willing to deal with it.
As for idealism, sure, it'd be lovely if it worked. If everybody in the world was a pacifist, then there'd be no need for anyone to know how to fight. But unfortunately, there are a lot of people out there who aren't pacifists. And unfortunately, while there are violent people in the world, you need more violent people to protect your ideals from them.
Brindley
20-04-2006, 20:21
I find it a bit hypocritical when you claim it would be lovely if it worked, but then criticise those who try it. I understand your points though, I know there is a need for physical conflict sometimes. You'll note I said I try not to fight, because I know that as much as I would like not to, it is only an ideal.
Still, I try and hold onto that ideal as much as I can, and am happy to call myself a pacifist..
anyone use weapons in a fight if needed? or do you prefer hand to hand? i do use weapons in the right circumstances.
One Winged Angel
20-04-2006, 21:46
usally get in fight when someone piss me off and usally how I feel but I like to use weapons more.
usally get in fight when someone piss me off and usally how I feel but I like to use weapons more.
that is like me when i am pissed.
Tharrick
20-04-2006, 22:16
I find it a bit hypocritical when you claim it would be lovely if it worked, but then criticise those who try it.
I personally see it exactly the same as saying, for example, 'Oh, I hate being paid, I reckon everything would work so much better if we all worked for free and everything was shared equally' (hoorah communism :P)
Since only a few people would go for it, it wouldn't work. The only way it'd work would be if every single person on the planet simultaneously decided to follow the same ideals at the same time, and that just isn't going to happen.
anyone use weapons in a fight if needed? or do you prefer hand to hand? i do use weapons in the right circumstances.
Unfortunately, weapons just get you in trouble. I can do well enough with my fists these days, but again it all depends on circumstances. If there's three blokes with knives, and you manage to get a knife off one of them, you may have to use it to stop yourself getting killed. You'll be jailed for murder, of course, because a jury would see that as excessive force, but on the other hand you'd still be alive.
Brindley
20-04-2006, 22:58
I can do well enough with my fists these days...
And your riot gear... :P
Tharrick
20-04-2006, 23:02
Heh, the riot gear wasn't bought for fighting, although I've been sorely tempted at times
Rusty2006
21-04-2006, 01:13
I try not to. I'm a pacifist.
Why be a pacifist? Fight and kick the crap out of any one who dares to hurt one another? Eye of the tiger people, eye of the tiger.
I only fight if my pride gets dented and out of self-defence including defending of family members.
Trigani-Maru-Suke
21-04-2006, 04:50
I'm not a fighter, nor a lover for that matter XD If someone offends/pisses me off enough then I'll fight em, but for the most part I don't really get into fights.
Rusty2006
21-04-2006, 05:13
I'm not a fighter, nor a lover for that matter XD If someone offends/pisses me off enough then I'll fight em, but for the most part I don't really get into fights.
Why not? Is it because you don't like violence?
Trigani-Maru-Suke
21-04-2006, 05:26
I'm not one of those,"omg please don't fight, can't we just work this out with words" people but I'm not all like,"there is fight, I got to go check that out and hopefully jump in" people either. I don't get into fights cause I don't beef with people usually, if someone has a problem with me I just tell em off, usually they just are all like,"pfft whatever". If someone was to swing at me for any reason I'd start swingin' back.
Rusty2006
21-04-2006, 06:27
Awesome, thanks for not taking it the wrong way dude. I am some what like you, I avoid conflict if I can, because conflict is kind of tiresome.
this thread has some iteresting posts.
Tharrick
21-04-2006, 23:38
I'm still waiting for the rest of that post
Rusty2006
22-04-2006, 04:54
Tell me about it Rocky, oh wait you already have. I still wonder what fighting solves though.
I rarely hit people, the last person I hit was a Chav who had spent the previous 5 minutes booting me about the floor because I slid him in a game of footie.
I rarely hit people, the last person I hit was a Chav who had spent the previous 5 minutes booting me about the floor because I slid him in a game of footie.
I'm surprised you waited that long, I wouldn't have.
I'll only really hit or fight a Chav, they seem to be the only ones that deserve it. :mad:
what is a chav and what do they do?
Brindley
24-04-2006, 21:32
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chav
They're not a very nice bunch of people, and unfortunately, the number of them in the UK is on the increase. Like grey squirrels, really... :(
thank you for ansering part of my ? but what do they do?
Brindley
24-04-2006, 21:53
If you properly read the article there is a 14 point list as to what they do. Highlights (lowlights?) include:
# ...is associated with crass, drunken behaviour and minor criminal activities. This includes unprovoked attacks on members of the public (see happy slapping), vandalism, verbal abuse, and drug abuse. This delinquency may be carried out under the influence of cheap alcohol, often after the pubs have closed.
# takes part in under-aged drinking and sex (and, consequently, is associated with teen pregnancy).
# congregates and loiters in areas such as shopping centres and fast food restaurants
# pronounces English in a style that is seen to be unsophisticated and characterised by slack diction — for example, the pronunciation of "thing" as "fing".
i would have shot them in the knee caps them if any chav messed with me.
Tharrick
25-04-2006, 00:45
Yes, but then YOU'RE in the wrong, and YOU get arrested
you are right but i would do it anyway. Just when there are no witnesses.
Tharrick
25-04-2006, 21:34
Don't you ever watch CSI? :P They can trace a fired bullet back to the gun it was fired from. All they need to do is find your gun and they've got you. Plus, if you only shoot them in the kneecaps, they'll be able to identify you in court later
not if you use a .22 cal and shoot in the head. because it bounces around in the skull and loses its ballistics.
You people know a scary level of detail about this kind of stuff.
The best way to go about life is to not fight at all. Sure, I hit people - but it's a rare occurance and it's only either to defend myself or because someone has pissed me off to a great extent (and started beating on me).
Tharrick
27-04-2006, 01:19
not if you use a .22 cal and shoot in the head. because it bounces around in the skull and loses its ballistics.
But the things such as the % composition of the bullet remain the same, which lets it be traced back to a certain batch.
Also,
i would have shot them in the knee caps
not if you use a .22 cal and shoot in the head.
You'd have to be a REALLY bad shot to try to get someone in the kneecaps and wind up hitting the head.
not if you make your own bullets and do you own reloading.
Tharrick
27-04-2006, 22:00
not if you make your own bullets and do you own reloading.
No, because then they still analyse the bullets that you own, find that their composition is exactly the same as the bullet they dug out of the guy's head, and then when they find out that they're handmade they KNOW they've got you, rather than just having you as a definite suspect
you got a point there Tharrick.
Rusty2006
13-05-2006, 01:37
Got to learn to stick your stick up, you know?
Self-defense.Other than that, to help out a dear mate being outnumbered or something.
i do that too i mean i help a friend when they need it.
I dont fight. If i where to fight it would be to the death I wouldnt have it any other way. In any case i havent gotten into many fights.
your fists never served you well have they?
I try not to get physical, unless I REALLY, REALLY need to. I think in most cases violence is unnecessary. I hate unnecessary violence, I think it says that you can't control your own emotions/anger and I see it as being very weak...however in some cases it is justified, like if a man beats his wife, then he deserves a good wallop or two >_<
I fight to protect those that cant, those I care about and care about me and my friends.
Dave
Blue Moon Dragoon
25-05-2006, 07:52
Well, if I had to, I guess I would fight for my Friends and Family, but fortunately, I have never gotten into a fight.
weapons are for losers... theyre cheap... only use a weapon if you have agreed you would. Depending on the situation, such as a robbery you may use a weapon. I fight for justice... no other reason.
shadowclone7
31-05-2006, 17:12
as a streat fighter as myself a fight for money even though it might seem reckless there are rules and boundries for sacrid honour who ever do not follow those rules can not call themself a street fighter
Tharrick
01-06-2006, 01:01
weapons are for losers... theyre cheap... only use a weapon if you have agreed you would.
Screw that. I'm primarily a weapons fighter and proud of it! When I hold my sword I can feel my pulse in my hands going through into the hilt of the weapon, and the feeling as I cut is exquisite. However, my unarmed forms are considerably weaker. What kind of martial artist would I be if I threw away my primary advantage in favour of fighting in a manner that I'm weaker in? My sensei would kick me backwards and forwards all over the dojo for that!
When it comes to actual fighting, I'm not a big man, and I'm not particularly strong. I rely on my 'tricks' to get me out of tight spots. These tricks include steel-lined gloves and a kubotan stick.
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as a streat fighter as myself a fight for money even though it might seem reckless there are rules and boundries for sacrid honour who ever do not follow those rules can not call themself a street fighter
You're 16, kid. I really doubt you're a professional street fighter.
shadowclone7
02-06-2006, 01:22
You're 16, kid. I really doubt you're a professional street fighter.heh I was trained at the age of eight but enyway I'm still inexperienced But I'm quite mature for may age
Do you have your own style of fighting? or is it one just passed down through tradition or been created then taught to you?. My style is really self taught... Quite like Asuka's style on Tekken 5 but definitely not as flippy as hers.
Dale Anthony
02-06-2006, 14:31
Jesus (and I apologise for the Blasphemy)...most of you sound like a frigging PS2 Character. Get a grip and be serious here. Yes, fighting for justice, GREAT...that'll sound amazing...in an episode of Batman. Fighting for your friends and family I can understand but what the hell are you fighting? Aliens aren't taking over the planet...
I think to be honest, until something happens (that most of you probably would think involves a Supervillain) be serious and fight for what you can. You can't fight "for justice" if you do nothing with yourself.
Tharrick
02-06-2006, 15:00
heh I was trained at the age of eight but enyway I'm still inexperienced But I'm quite mature for may age
I started training at 9 and I'm 4 years older than you. I've had training in 5 martial arts (judo, karate, kendo, iaido and krav maga) and for the last year have put in 5-8 hours in the dojo every week, in addition to a lot of out-of-dojo sparring with friends.
I wouldn't last 5 minutes against a professional fighter.
I doubt you'd last any longer.
there are rules and boundries for sacrid honour who ever do not follow those rules can not call themself a street fighter
There's no such thing as honour when you step outside the dojo. If you haven't realised that yet, then when you finally get into a real fight you'll still be curled up around your shredded manhood while the mugger makes off with your wallet.
Jesus (and I apologise for the Blasphemy)...most of you sound like a frigging PS2 Character.
Thanks for saying what I've been thinking through this whole thread :P
shadowclone7
02-06-2006, 20:15
I wouldn't last 5 minutes against a professional fighter.
I doubt you'd last any longer.heh well it is true that i've never been in a dojo
even through training for me is a daily thing i'm an middle rank like an chunin in naruto as a person like me we get paid to fight in gang wars including elite fighters
i guess some how I'm still alive
Do you have your own style of fighting? or is it one just passed down through tradition well I've been fighting the same style as my instructer past on to me like tradition but we also add to the tecniqes for future generation
There's no such thing as honour when you step outside the dojo. If you haven't realised that yet, then when you finally get into a real fight you'll still be curled up LOL hehehehe i still know some of my friends that do that
but for real there are still boundries for real streat fighters like fighting one on one
In the past even now I still take saver beatings but in Canada we have the best health care plan
i have several fighting styles and use them all.
Wakizashi
08-08-2006, 17:20
i know tae kwon do and karate and i am starting moi tai this week as well as starting a weapons class( joining, not making)
I have fought for self-defense, but not physically.
I prefer peace unless I am fighting for justice or for friends or family.
My paradigm on fights:
Whenever there is a fight, no one wins, unless you are talking about a war or a strike. My reason for this is that people will always get defensive as long as things are being thrown at them; and no one likes the thought of surrendering.
I have fought for self-defense, but not physically.
no one likes the thought of surrendering.
first how do you do that? and second that doesn't apply to everyone.
i might as well draw up little trading cards for you all with a cute little picture, some hit points and some special moves, and your resistances and weaknesses and then i can pit you against one another and decide who will be champion of these boards forevermore!
it could be the next pokemon...
Tharrick
18-08-2006, 18:51
i might as well draw up little trading cards for you all with a cute little picture, some hit points and some special moves, and your resistances and weaknesses
It'd be more realistic combat than most of these 'I fight for great justice!' people have ever been in.
i'll be truthful here i fight out of anger towards a person that offended me i'll also fight for fun like boxing and sparring with my step brother in the front yard.ill also fight to protect myself. but alas i know very little martial arts all i know is a small bit of karate (yellow belt)and some boxing. i would know more about karate if i had the money, with boxing i can a refferal to a school were they have it there for teaching and plus it's free.
zimac_muiea
22-08-2006, 08:23
I fight for my right... and for others if its worth it...
Tharrick
22-08-2006, 14:09
Your right to paaaaarty?
Depu Techiikue
23-08-2006, 00:43
I fight because I'm pushed over the edge. I try to avoid conflict, I'm somewhat of a pacifest. I'm afraid of hurting peopel... But if someone has pushed my right buttons, I will unleash my fury. I've only been pushed to the point where I just completely lost it, or snapped, and it was a scary experience. :p
Sephiroth912
23-08-2006, 16:53
I'm a pacifist physically most of the time (unless I'm really strained or need to be physical for self-defense) but I really lash out at people verbally in arguments. I'm tough to beat in an argument most of the time :P
i dont fight but once i got bullied at school and lost it and smacked him into a painting and broke it :p his head went thry it like in a cartoon but i owed school £50 for damages :(
zimac_muiea
26-08-2006, 03:41
Your right to paaaaarty?
Yes... that's RIGHT!!!... RIGHT?? lolz
I rarely get into fights, but when I do it's just self-defense, I also fight to defend my friends, family etc..
Razorblade Kiss
21-10-2006, 19:15
I see fights as meaningless unless they're meant to protect someone, or something.
Yesterday there was a riot at this school up the street. Fighting in two hallways and all over the lunch room.
Fights are senseless.
Soren_666
22-10-2006, 00:45
If someone hits me, I hit them back, I never start fights...Just the other day this kid I didn't even know came up and slapped me out of nowhere so I knocked the wind out of her, she was crying, saying she was dying, I just thought to myself, what pansy...
My girlfriend and I try to teach her daughter to stand up for herself. If she's pushed in school (1st grade), she should push back. While words are better for resolving conflict, they don't often work if the instigator is as prone to violence as he's proven himself. The first, most important response should always be to let the instigator know that you are totally unwilling to take his flak.
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