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What do you think about rape? What do you think people could do to prevent it from happening?
What do you think someone could do to get over being raped?
There's so much things running in my head I can't exactly say what I want to say..so just discuss..
You alright Xyr? You seem disturbed by something =/
Anyhoo onto the topic...
I think rape is a horrible horrible thing, my views are very strong about this so I apoligise in advance if I offend anyone.
I am disgusted at rapists, I think it's just so sad, selfish and pathetic...just cause they want sex, they find vulnerable people and abuse them & force them into sex...they don't even think of that person's feelings, just their own sex drive, it makes me sick. In my eyes sex should be something very intimate and personal, not something one person forces on the other just cause they can't control their own damn hormones... ¬_¬
To prevent it from happening? Unfortunately I think that would be near impossible... >_< I know if I was in control I'd seriously get them neutered, with a nice prison sentence on top. ¬.¬ Crime is hard to stop from happening, especially in today's society. Making the sentence for rape heavier would maybe help a little bit, but only to the naked eye...there are still a lot of rape cases that aren't being reported cause the victim her/himself is too ashamed or is being blackmailed not to tell anyone - there are still millions of people getting away with rape everyday.
To get over it, that's a whole different story..fortunately I've never been raped, but I imagine it's really hard to get over something so horrible as that (of course, you can only imagine things so far :/ You'd have to have experienced things to truly answer this one >_<). All I can think of is strong mental support from family and loved ones, I think that would be the most important.
First of all, You won't ever get over getting raped. It will always pry at your mind and the first few months after the incident is the worst. It's the most horriblest thing you could ever feel, you just feel so dirty and wrong you feel like your a bad person and you can't blame the person that raped you, you think you did something to do derserve it. It even makes you un-sociable so your just can't speak, anything that does come out of your mouth is air.
To help them, you really should just talk to them like nothing has happened, don't act like something has happened it makes it so much worse that you actually think about it. And try to avoid touching them, it will make them feel very uncomfortable and freak out.
Just don't expect to see any change for some time, because they won't, and when they appear to be changing back, don't expect them to be the person you once knew.
I agree with everything Mirae said though, rape is disgusting and horrible. It's even worse when someone you know, you love and someone your close to does it to you (e.g. family). I just hope (im guessing here) that the person who raped your friend gets caught, becuase the only real justice you will get out of rape is to put the criminal to death.
My girlfriend..the one that I've been with over a year now..I found out last night she was raped 3 times...the first insident was on our 10th month...
I am going insane over this... When she told me, I cried, yelled, screamed..I didn't believe that could happen to us.. I was always afraid something like this to a girl that I love..And look what happend, it happend to the girl I was planning on marrying...
I'm going to get this guy in Prison, for as long as I possibly can... I am going to ruin his life like he has ruined ours...
My girlfriend..the one that I've been with over a year now..I found out last night she was raped 3 times...the first insident was on our 10th month...
I am going insane over this... When she told me, I cried, yelled, screamed..I didn't believe that could happen to us.. I was always afraid something like this to a girl that I love..And look what happend, it happend to the girl I was planning on marrying...
I'm going to get this guy in Prison, for as long as I possibly can... I am going to ruin his life like he has ruined ours...
I hope your actually upset over the fact she got raped and not because she lost her virginity to someone else, because if you are...your sick, really sick.
It is so selfish to even think like that, her being raped is 1,000,000x worse than her loosing her virginity to someone, do you know what the **** her being raped will do her mental state? AND 3 TIMES? what the ****? I don't see how anyone who loves someone can even worry about that.
I'm worried about a lot of shit, I mainly care about what happend, and get the ****er behind bars..I talked with Tsuji about this already..
a_nirvana_fan
17-06-2006, 00:37
Rape is easily one of the worst thing someone can do, I mean how the ****(sorry bout language) can anyone have the mind to actually rape someone and probably get them pregnant, its really sick and I HATE hearing stories about it, there's no need at all to rape a defenseless person, its totally wrong and sick. You've gotta be really mental to do it.
Dale Anthony
17-06-2006, 01:22
I hope your actually upset over the fact she got raped and not because she lost her virginity to someone else, because if you are...your sick, really sick.
It is so selfish to even think like that, her being raped is 1,000,000x worse than her loosing her virginity to someone, do you know what the **** her being raped will do her mental state? AND 3 TIMES? what the ****? I don't see how anyone who loves someone can even worry about that.
Where the heck'd he mention her virginity? I'll admit, her being raped is much worse so, if that's all he's worried about he is pretty...screwed. But nevertheless. The most you can do, is stay with her and at least try your best to get her to carry on normally...not worry about her virginity being gone...rather worry about healing what's most hurt her. Being raped.
I am upset that I can not take her virginity, but that's not what the **** I am worried about.
I am pissed on what he did to her..He forced her..The sick disgusting ****ing douche.
I want him behind bars before he can do this to another girl and ruin her life as well..
Dale Anthony
17-06-2006, 11:11
I am upset that I can not take her virginity, but that's not what the **** I am worried about.
I am pissed on what he did to her..He forced her..The sick disgusting ****ing douche.
I want him behind bars before he can do this to another girl and ruin her life as well..
That's the point she's getting at. I'll admit, girls tend to sleep with just the good-looking guys then fall back on the nice ones but you can't simply be upset that this guy stole her virginity. She's scarred worse than that and if you can't see that, then you don't deserve to have her.
Guys like me are single and it's people like you who don't give a damn about anything but getting laid that shouldn't have a girlfriend. There's only a certain amount of girls in this World and I ain't surprised most of them are dating people like you cause you disguise the fact you just wanna be in their bed SOOOO ****ing much that in the end, they're torn apart in that relationship by something utterly stupid and they end up without you and fall back on guys like me. We have feelings and I don't expect to have to end up with a girl who's been treat like Hell, just because guys like you want the most stupid of things from a relationship.
Don't be a complete arse, look at what she's REALLY lost. What he did is bad but what you're doing is much ****ing worse. Get your stupid adolescent sex-crazed head outta the toliet and start thinking like her boyfriend, not her rapist. I know that's harsh but you're doing no better Xyrin.
Wow, you're taking this way out of ****ing line...
I am not sex craved, at all. All I want is to be with her.
It was just something that me and her planned on, it was a conversation we had. And I love how you read my first few lines and then compleatly ignored the other lines.
There is a lot of shit running through my head right now, if your girlfriend got rapped you'd probably have the same ****ing problem.
I have my own feelings on life, that are different than yours, don't call me a "sex-craved ****er" because of it, okay? And don't you EVER ****ING TELL ME THAT I AM ONLY WITH HER TO GET LAID. You have no ****ing idea why I am with her, you have no ****ing idea how I feel, or how I act. You don't even know me so don't put that kind of shit on me.
Got it? Kthx.
Dale Anthony
17-06-2006, 13:34
Wow, you're taking this way out of ****ing line...
I am not sex craved, at all. All I want is to be with her.
It was just something that me and her planned on, it was a conversation we had. And I love how you read my first few lines and then compleatly ignored the other lines.
There is a lot of shit running through my head right now, if your girlfriend got rapped you'd probably have the same ****ing problem.
I have my own feelings on life, that are different than yours, don't call me a "sex-craved ****er" because of it, okay? And don't you EVER ****ING TELL ME THAT I AM ONLY WITH HER TO GET LAID. You have no ****ing idea why I am with her, you have no ****ing idea how I feel, or how I act. You don't even know me so don't put that kind of shit on me.
Got it? Kthx.
Okay...muppet. You said so yourself, you were sad because she lost her virginity. ANY good boyfriend, wouldn't give a ****ing shit. YOU, my dear little boy, need to give a damn about how she's feeling. You shouldn't even dare MENTION the fact her virginity is gone. By all means, think about it, but her virginity is NOTHING compared to what she has lost. So I put it to you, to take the time to shut up complaining on this forum and stay with her if it means THAT much to you.
If you have time to argue like a complete idiot on a forum after something THAT bad has happened to someone you love then you REALLY don't deserve her. You're supposed to be spending time with HER until she's over it. I'm well aware I don't know why you're with her but YOU brought the fact her virginity was gone into it, YOU are the friggin' twit who made it seem like that's ALL you cared about. If that's not the case, YOU should be doing something about her and looking after her, being with her. Don't worry about putting HIM behind bars yet because it's her you need to be with.
Now do you see the big word I used in that sentence? I said "YOU". So YOU should be sorting your relationship out...NOT messing around here and expecting other people to do it for you, if you really give a damn.
As I said before, you have no idea who I am, you have no idea how I feel, so let me explain this to you for a bit.
Rin comes first in my life, I am always there to talk to her, to comfort her.
I was on MSN, Myspace, and I had the phone next to me all day waiting to hear from her. (She is going to NC.)
The whole day until around 5PM or so, I was sitting there, just waiting to hear from her and talk with her, and act normal to try and chear her up. I didn't eat, I didn't drink, I just sat there and waited. I told her that I was always there to talk with her about things, and I would always be there for her.
And I must say, how DARE you say that I don't ****ing deserve her. Well, **** you. You get all pissed off at me because you don't have a girlfriend yourself, and you think I'm a sex-craved freak. I was her friend for a year before we started going out.. She asked me out.
And the whole virginity thing, I don't think of it as being sexual at all. And no, I don't really care about it right now, all I care about is her being happy, and to get her to be happy I have to be happy.. And you aren't really ****ing helping.It's a good thing I've turned to ignore some emotions, so, you can say I'm a bad boyfriend all you want, because it's all total bullshit.
Dale Anthony
17-06-2006, 13:49
As I said before, you have no idea who I am, you have no idea how I feel, so let me explain this to you for a bit.
Rin comes first in my life, I am always there to talk to her, to comfort her.
I was on MSN, Myspace, and I had the phone next to me all day waiting to hear from her. (She is going to NC.)
The whole day until around 5PM or so, I was sitting there, just waiting to hear from her and talk with her, and act normal to try and chear her up. I didn't eat, I didn't drink, I just sat there and waited. I told her that I was always there to talk with her about things, and I would always be there for her.
And I must say, how DARE you say that I don't ****ing deserve her. Well, **** you. You get all pissed off at me because you don't have a girlfriend yourself, and you think I'm a sex-craved freak. I was her friend for a year before we started going out.. She asked me out.
And the whole virginity thing, I don't think of it as being sexual at all. And no, I don't really care about it right now, all I care about is her being happy, and to get her to be happy I have to be happy.. And you aren't really ****ing helping.It's a good thing I've turned to ignore some emotions, so, you can say I'm a bad boyfriend all you want, because it's all total bullshit.
Wow...and you say, I ignored most of what YOU said previously. If you weren't so ****ing ignorant in thinking you were doing the right thing, which you clearly aren't cause you're STILL babbling on here, then you'd realise I'm trying my best to help. But the more I get into this, the more you are wasting precious time that you could actually BE with HER arguing with me.
STOP BEING AN ARSEHOLE. What the **** does sitting on MSN, Myspace and the Telephone mean? If you were a real ****ing boyfriend, you'd be at her place regardless. How much do I have to say this? And you've brought the virginity thing up again which suggests it DOES bother you. Get a grip. ALL it is, is sexual. Yes, it signifies love...NOT IN THIS CASE. If you care about her being happy, please...SHUT THE **** UP and GO to HER'S. FORGET waiting online, or are you a coward to help her face her problems? My evaluation of you is based on what you've said and your actions online. THAT'S a reasonable evaluation seeing as you keep coming back to this ****ing thread. It's fair enough putting it up, but you've been on it as far as I can see, EVERYDAY. GET A LIFE, GO and see your girlfriend, you friggin' moron.
As for the not sleeping and drinking etc., I'd usually give people sympathy for that but you aren't trying enough to be with her. If you're gonna sit at home and WAIT for her to get in touch with her, then you aren't helping her OR you.
Again, you have no idea on what the **** is going on.
I live in Arizona.
She lives in Maine.
She is visiting her mother in North Carolina.
I am spending all of the money I currently have saved up to go see her for 2 weeks to comfort her.
Right now the only thing I CAN do is wait for her on MSN, myspace, and by the phone. It's all I can do, and you think I'm fine with that?
And the only reason I bring up the virginity thing is because you are bitching about it, if I dropped the subject it would only make me look worse, rather than trying to explain my feelings.
And why am I on right now? Well, probably because I woke up at 4 AM worrying about her, so I got on MSN to talk with Tsuji, and I found you left some bullshit comments. Don't bust on someone's ass when you know nothing about them, okay?
Dale Anthony
17-06-2006, 14:00
Again, you have no idea on what the **** is going on.
I live in Arizona.
She lives in Maine.
She is visiting her mother in North Carolina.
I am spending all of the money I currently have saved up to go see her for 2 weeks to comfort her.
Right now the only thing I CAN do is wait for her on MSN, myspace, and by the phone. It's all I can do, and you think I'm fine with that?
And the only reason I bring up the virginity thing is because you are bitching about it, if I dropped the subject it would only make me look worse, rather than trying to explain my feelings.
And why am I on right now? Well, probably because I woke up at 4 AM worrying about her, so I got on MSN to talk with Tsuji, and I found you left some bullshit comments. Don't bust on someone's ass when you know nothing about them, okay?
Right! THANK YOU for explaining this at last. Now, how long is she IN Maine? And again...son...this is not bullshit comments. I'm trying to help you but you've been SOOOOO damn ignorant and stuck on the subject of virginity that I've had to be hard on you and asked if you really cared. I'm not bitching about the virginity thing, you mentioned it first. Infact, if we go back...Dom mentioned it not me...so you've missed that aswell.
And don't tell me not to bust on someone's ass dude. I've GOT experience, I've dealt with things worse than this before and your constant complaining on a forum, still can't be justified. I'll admit, if I was angry, I'd make a thread about it...but regardless of how much attention it got, I'd REALLY be focused on being with her. NOT browsing a forum. Forget Myspace...it's barely a way to stay in touch even if you are worried. If she really needs you, she'll be on MSN or the Phone. Don't expect her Myspace to suddenly ask for you, cause it's not exactly a Peer-2-Peer thing.
I was waiting on Myspace to know when she was home from her day. And she's visiting NC, not Maine..She's staying in NC for the whole summer with her mother (Her mom and dad are seperated..)
And I do care about her much more than a forum. When I was talking to her, she's all I cared about, and I stayed there until she went to bed.
When me and her talk, I am calm..Happy..But when she's gone I start getting feelings inside my gut like somethings wrong, missing.
I want to stay with her longer, but her mother didn't want me staying more than 2 weeks (Before this all happend) And I don't think her mom will change her mind on how long I can stay. Yes, I was going up there originaly planned...But now it's for a different reason. First I was just going up there to be with her, to see her, to hold her. Now I'm going up there to protect her, to make her feel safe, to feel loved..
Dale Anthony
17-06-2006, 14:12
I was waiting on MSN to know when she was home from her day. And she's visiting NC, not Maine..She's staying in NC for the whole summer with her mother (Her mom and dad are seperated..)
And I do care about her much more than a forum. When I was talking to her, she's all I cared about, and I stayed there until she went to bed.
When me and her talk, I am calm..Happy..But when she's gone I start getting feelings inside my gut like somethings wrong, missing.
I want to stay with her longer, but her mother didn't want me staying more than 2 weeks (Before this all happend) And I don't think her mom will change her mind on how long I can stay. Yes, I was going up there originaly planned...But now it's for a different reason. First I was just going up there to be with her, to see her, to hold her. Now I'm going up there to protect her, to make her feel safe, to feel loved..
Ya see, I respect that. That's more or less what I'd be doing. To be honest, it's all very well being on the forum...but maybe there's a job you can do to get more money or something. You know what I mean? I just hope that when you go and see her you show her really that much that you care. She really needs you now and as long as you do enough, even whilst you aren't there, it'll feel like you are. And she'll feel better...she'll feel loved. Just do your best to look after her. Some people are luckier than others, so I hope for her and your sake that'll be you.
Well I'm going to visit in about 2 weeks, which is another paycheck... I should have enough money to go see her, and if not, then I'll just ask for a bit of money from my parents to aid me to go see her (Which I will pay them back for)
And to tell you the truth, I absolutly HATE my job, with a passion.. Too much work for such a little price, and so much stress with some of the customers and things going on in the back. But I've kept the job since Valentines day for her, so I can have money for her... I also wanted to buy her something, but I'm not sure if I'll have the money to buy anything too expensive..
Dale Anthony
17-06-2006, 14:19
Well I'm going to visit in about 2 weeks, which is another paycheck... I should have enough money to go see her, and if not, then I'll just ask for a bit of money from my parents to aid me to go see her (Which I will pay them back for)
And to tell you the truth, I absolutly HATE my job, with a passion.. Too much work for such a little price, and so much stress with some of the customers and things going on in the back. But I've kept the job since Valentines day for her, so I can have money for her... I also wanted to buy her something, but I'm not sure if I'll have the money to buy anything too expensive..
Forget about buying her something expensive. Some people say love is the most expensive thing you can give someone. If all you can afford is enough to go see her, that'll be good enough. I mean, last time I checked North Carolina and Arizona, weren't that close. So just travelling the distance would probably make her feel as happy as possible cause you did that for her. Maybe as things go on you can buy her something, but for now. Just go see her. It's for the best.
And most people hate their jobs, that's nothing unusual. But you're doing her a favour working something you don't like.
Meh, I do everything for her and her alone.
All I ask back from her is a smile.
I want her happy, and sadly for that to happen I have to be happy.. So I try to forget about the things that put me down. Though whenever I am with her, I am always happy..
Dale Anthony
17-06-2006, 14:27
Meh, I do everything for her and her alone.
All I ask back from her is a smile.
I want her happy, and sadly for that to happen I have to be happy.. So I try to forget about the things that put me down. Though whenever I am with her, I am always happy..
You should keep that attitude. Alot of people would have trouble with that but if you can stay happy for her sake, that's the best thing to do. To keep her happy. It's not a sad thing that you have to be happy...if it makes her happy, it's quite the opposite. Even if you both feel down. It'll build a strength in your relationship and in times to come will make it more difficult to seperate the two of you, no matter what.
Well for now I'm going to try and get some more sleep before work..
Anyways, yeah...
Dale Anthony
17-06-2006, 14:33
Well for now I'm going to try and get some more sleep before work..
Anyways, yeah...
Yeah. See ya. Just remember, don't give up on her. If she means that much. Goodnight.
Alright guys, sorry to be a spoilsport but I'm afraid I'm going to have to close this thread, it seemed a bit too heated, although you both seem to have solved it now. However if anyone wants it open again for normal original topic discussion just send me a pm, I'll have no problem re-opening it, but be nice to eachother xP
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