the meaning of life [Archive] - Hell and Heaven Net // Forums

Sephiroth912

11-12-2006, 21:30

I have MANY views on life. So many are so thoughtful and so in depth that not only is it incredibly confusing and hard to write out, but it would offend many due to the religious aspects of my views. I'll probably jump in every now and then with my own views and interpretations, but until then my lips are otherwise sealed.

...Scratch that. Yes, Sonic, that's one reason in my book. All living things die, however all living things are born. It is a cycle, spiritually and physically. The cycle is simple Birth, Life, Death, Repeat.

Dale Anthony

12-12-2006, 07:44

right this has be on my mind for a long time.whats the meaning of life to you. I have always be told that the meaning of life is death.

Erm...you can't really answer that. For me, the meaning of MY life is to be in love and have a family because that's my main aim in life. Apart from that, there's no actual definition I could GIVE life apart from it's the instance in which something lives. Apart from that, there's no answer other than MY view on life.

In a sense, maybe the meaning of life is a personal thing as in only you can answer it for yourself. Any answer given by anyone else, isn't the correct one for you.

Grae

12-12-2006, 11:02

Life is what happens when you ponder questions like these young padawan.

Tharrick

12-12-2006, 12:18

42.

Next question?

Müninn

12-12-2006, 13:30

42.

Next question?

Damn, you beat me to it =/

But really,

In a sense, maybe the meaning of life is a personal thing as in only you can answer it for yourself. Any answer given by anyone else, isn't the correct one for you.

I agree with you there. People always think they will know the answer, but the only true answer is the one that is right for you. You must find your own reason as to why you are here, not go by what others say.

Sephiroth912

12-12-2006, 14:08

42.

Next question?

I was tempted but a. I wanted to be serious and b. in a forum game where sonic asked the same question i answered that :P

Glash

12-12-2006, 14:13

well i just wanted to see peoples views on it

and my friend said that the meaning of life is to enjoy it

Tharrick

12-12-2006, 14:22

Well, being purely serious, I can't give you the MEANING of life but I can give you the PURPOSE of life.

In a purely biological sense, the purpose of life is the propagation of life.
In a religious sense, the purpose of life is also the propagation of life (go forth and multiply)

The purpose of higher life is to provide more protection for your seed or eggs. That's it, unless you add religious beliefs to it.

Glash

12-12-2006, 14:25

right if the meaing is to die whats the point on living

am confuse

Sephiroth912

12-12-2006, 14:47

Here's why: everyone's life, in theory, is different. To some, it is pleasurefully enjoyable. To some, it's a miserable train of constant horrors and traumatization. And the rest are somewhere in the middle. Yet each one is different in their own way. However, death, no matter the circumstance, is the same in every person when it comes right down to it.

My point: there are reasons to backup every meaning and every single purpose to life and all can be answered with a little extra thought.

Dale Anthony

12-12-2006, 14:47

right if the meaing is to die whats the point on living

am confuse

Wait a minute. Who said the meaning of life was to die? Like I said and as Munnin agreed, it's to find the answer yourself. No-one said the meaning was to die and it's not like we live on Duracell batteries so you can't place a meaning on why we live and die. If your purpose is gone, there's no need for you. Maybe that's it?

Don't be offended by this, but you're asking a question that could spam up the forum because no-one knows the answer. If it were so easy to answer for even two people or more then we'd not be asking it but unfortunately no more than one person can answer that question and when they do, they can only answer what they believe, thus you can't go with it.

Which brings me back to my original point, you can only find what it means to you and answer the question yourself.

Dark Sephiroth

12-12-2006, 18:06

i think the meaning of life is to live.

Hideto

12-12-2006, 23:30

Hm... I've thought about this a lot, at times. And ultimately, I've come to the conclusion that the meaning of our life and existence is simply to reproduce and not to die out and to produce a stronger generation of children to strengthen and accomplish things as a species

Dark Sephiroth

12-12-2006, 23:35

Poison Mushroom

16-12-2006, 23:56

really, i'd say that perception is reality. if you view the point of life to be death, then you will slowly work yourself into where you are prepared for death. and due to that, it may not be as bad for you. but if you think life is about helping others live, then by god, why would you sit around? also if your view is blurred or confused, life might give you hard times.

Dreyga

03-01-2007, 19:57

this brings me back to one of the original sayings: Everything happens for a reason.
If you want MY input everything happens for a reason, you were brought in the world for a specific reason, tho it might not be a big deal to everyone else on this earth but it will be for you, im not saying so and so was put on the earth to find a cure to some deadly disease, im saying that my personal thought for my i am here is to help other people the best i can when they are in need of help :) you just have to come up with your own belief if you ask me dont go off of what anyone else says, figure it out for you and only you

Glash

15-01-2007, 21:40

if everthing has a reason then why are we here this is starting to get confusing for me now.

Sever Off

05-07-2007, 17:42

As already stated the meaning of life is consisted of ones personal meaning therfore more of a PURPOSE of life than a meaning. My purpose in life are my kids, without them it would be something else. Everyone has there own meaning of life. Some choose to wander through life never having purpose, but in reality that is there purpose (to wander). Others have Family, passions, and spiritial beliefs that they go through or yern to have.

So other than "42" the answer IMO to this question is simply ... It is what you want it to be, and a chance to be on earth for a limited time.

Glash

20-07-2007, 21:28

or they is no meaning or one of mankind unanswers questions.

Dragon Blade

22-07-2007, 12:55

Well, as part of the Youth Ministry for Christ, I believe that our own reason for living is a purpose that we have to achieve. I think that God gave us life because we were sent on our own individual missions to fulfill.

Sever Off

23-07-2007, 19:49

or they is no meaning or one of mankind unanswers questions.

Yes there is a meaning. Of course theres meaning. Just as there will always be answers. Its up to the individual to decide which answer he/she likes best. And then to live by what one feels is the right way to go. How come you get like 20 different answers then state "i guess it will be unanswered". Its answered,, just pick one. :D

As Dragon Blade stated it is up to us to fulfill our individual missions. I can go with that answer as well.

Silberlöwe

24-07-2007, 13:44

*wandering into topic*
Hello. I thought about this sort of thing much in the past. Then I was blessed with cosmic answers to all my queries. Concerning this, it goes as follows:

Life has no meaning without a preceding purpose. The purpose in Life is to find meaning. Meanings can be given, just as they can be taken. Many struggle in search of a meaning, while others simply drift into what they find fulfilling.

What's absolutely thrilling about Life is that opportunities consistently present themselves, in which one can derive his or her meaning.

Meaning is simply a matter of opinion. What you may find meaningful, another may find to be without merit. The end result is always the same...

My free advice to anyone looking for their meaning: Consider your interests, and pay attention to your shortcomings. Be a good human, help your neighbor, care for your world- these things will get you far.

Sever Off

24-07-2007, 20:30

Well said Siberlowe. But you didn't tell us what yours is. So what is it then?

Mine I've already said, my kids, and my family. Pretty basic stuff. I try to be honorable and do the right thing. Hence this is the meaning of my life. I wasn't always this way. But changed into this once my daughter was born.

Dragonheardt

30-07-2007, 07:44

The meaning of life is simple. To survive and bring up offspring...elementary darwinism; or just read my sig and you'll see

Networks

31-07-2007, 04:02

The meaning of life.. this is a very hard one to answer

The meaning of life is to live as equal as you can to me.. God (or whoever you believe in) put us all here as equal people, to love one another and to have respect for everyone. But someone along the line screwed this up and thats why we have all these issues in the world.. such as Racism, Homophobia, etc. etc.

Also life is death, as you said. Everyone has to die and we must live our lives and learn how to accept this fact. So live each day to the fullest.. and dont hold back (although I am probably the shyest person ever)

iDeath

26-03-2008, 06:12

I assume the question is 'Why are we alive? What's the purpose of all this?'

Nature wants us to get laid and then die so the food cycle can continue. Answers question one all right.

The second question, a complaint disguised as philosophy, deserves this answer: a whole bunch of people thinking together makes harmless things like nudity and pot illegal.

Tharrick

28-03-2008, 20:06

a whole bunch of people thinking together makes harmless things like nudity and pot illegal.

Can't say much about nudity, but speaking as somebody who's seen one friend evicted from his house for spending all the rent money on his addiction, and seen another friend spiral into a complete personality shift and psychoses, pot is hardly harmless.

iDeath

28-03-2008, 22:38

Pot doesn't do that. It is ridiculously hard to get addicted to pot. You'd have to use the same methods to get addicted to chocolate. Same thing. It's an 'I like it' addiction rather than an 'I NEED IT!!!!!!111!!11!!' addiction. He must've been taking something else.

Pot doesn't make you crazy. That's a myth. He must've been taking something else as well.

Tharrick

28-03-2008, 23:17

Firstly, go and do a degree in biochemistry. Then read the December '07 edition of Addiction science and Clinical Practice (http://www.nida.nih.gov/pdf/ascp/vol4no1/marijuana.pdf), and any other research paper you can find.
THEN try to argue with me about neurotoxicity and addictivity, and I'll listen to any argument you can pull up. But until you can come up with a better counter to what I've spent the past 3 years studying than just 'Everybody knows that...', try accepting that some of us do this for a living.

iDeath

29-03-2008, 01:15

Exactly how often were your friends smoking pot? Probably not once or twice a week, as does the average pot smoker. These things don't happen to the average pot smoker.

So far, the only numbers they have are numbers that came to them. Maybe not every pot smoker needs treatment and recognizes that. Maybe not every pot smoker smokes near daily, and therefore doesn't feel the need to go there.

In the PDF, how often do these people smoke? Without that information, nothing said in the PDF should be listened to.

I'd like to see a study where someone pops a chocolate bar twice a week and another person smoking two joints a week for three months. Then they have to stop outright and get tested for withdrawal.

Tharrick

29-03-2008, 09:11

The addict was smoking every day. The one with the psychoses was only smoking a few times a week.

In the PDF, how often do these people smoke? Without that information, nothing said in the PDF should be listened to.
I'd suggest again that you go and do a degree in biochemistry, and then learn what the hell a review is. It's essentially an amalgamation of a large number of more specific research papers. If you want more specific things (such as, for example, how often the people in some of these trials smoked), track down the papers in the references section. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez is a good place to start.
Remember, this isn't just some bollocks made up by people. This is a review article, published in a recognised and respected medical journal, and reviewed by other doctors before publication.

I'd like to see a study where someone pops a chocolate bar twice a week and another person smoking two joints a week for three months. Then they have to stop outright and get tested for withdrawal.
Chocolate has never been observed to have adverse effects on the memory and reasoning centres of the brain.

Still, if you want to carry on arguing, why not take it a step higher? The contact details for the three doctors of pharmacology and one doctor of social work are on that paper. That's people with an absolute minimum of 12 years of postgraduate work between them. Got your PhD yet?

iDeath

29-03-2008, 17:19

I'm not trying to discredit anyone in any way, I would just appreciate smoking rates.

Not even close to a PhD here. The only 'facts ' I have are personal experience with pot smokers, and that varies from person to person. Isn't the general effect of pot very much the same thing as staying up way late?

However, I think it's odd that the normal pot smoker was crazy but the addict wasn't.

Sorry for only jumping about random points, I'm really busy right now. When I start caring enough about your stupid 'PhD' and 'education' maybe I'll get back on here.

(If you have trouble identifying sarcasm or I'm terrible as using it, then that was sarcasm)

Tharrick

29-03-2008, 21:03

Hahaha. 'I can't be bothered to accept that I'm wrong, so I'm just going to moan and then come up with some excuse as to why I'm being an idiot'

Shad Hoe

30-03-2008, 11:23

The meaning of life is not to argue *cough*

iDeath

31-03-2008, 01:18

Hahaha. 'I can't be bothered to accept that I'm wrong, so I'm just going to moan and then come up with some excuse as to why I'm being an idiot'
That's not very nice. I can list to you several opinions I have about myself that contradict what you're saying right now.

Anyway, I'm not going to admit I'm wrong, so I say that my version of what's going on isn't completely credible?

Tharrick

31-03-2008, 10:26

That's not very nice.
That's because I hate people who are so convinced that they're right that they refuse to accept the opinion of people with so much more experience and knowledge in the matter. You don't believe that your statements are wrong, but the whole of the scientific community does, and has proven so with repeated experiments.

I can list to you several opinions I have about myself that contradict what you're saying right now.

Then bloody well DO IT. So far, your whole arguing technique has been 'I can' and 'You're wrong' with no actual proof. Put up or shut up, as they say.

iDeath

02-04-2008, 15:45

It's... a joke? I don't know how to phrase this well...

Just look at it again. 'I can list several OPINIONS I HAVE ABOUT MYSELF that contradict what you're saying right now.'

EDIT:

'Anyway, I'm not going to admit I'm wrong, so I say that my version of what's going on isn't completely credible?'

That, rephrased in a better to understand for those who don't speak UpAtTwoO'Clock, is, 'Apparently I'm not going to admit I'm wrong, so disregard the fact that I said I probably don't have a perfect/credible opinion of stoners because I only know two or three and I don't have nor am I able to have a medical degree.'