View Full Version : Saddam Hussein Executed
http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/12/29/hussein/index.html
Well, I know this is something that will strike up some controversy. So, what are your opinions on this? Is it right? Immoral? Hypocritical? And, is it something to be so heavily celebrated by the people?
Personally, I think he got off to easy. The ease of his death compares not to the suffering he has caused to many others. But then, torturing him would only lower the people to his level, which is something they are fighting against, so meh. =P I also feel that the people have the full right to celebrate his death, they are finally getting revenge against someone who has devistated many lives and destroyed many families. Now, they did say that the excecution (Death by hanging) was videotaped and photographed. Myself, I don't want to see it, I'm happy enough knowing that the man is gone. I guess the photage is good for one thing though, actualy evidence that yes, he was killed and it wasn't faked.
So, what are your thoughts on this? Are you happy that he died, or would you have rather seen some other form of punishement? (Aside from torture, more along prison terms etc.)
Saddam never did anything to me, personally. Just remember who it was that trained him and put him where he was, gave him weapons and then went back to takek them from him, the UK and the US. The whole Saddam thing was us pretty much fixing our own mistake there.
Iraq was less violent when Saddam was in charge than it is now. Think about that, yeah he had his threats, and he killed some people, how many people have died trying to take him down?
I'm not a sympathiser, not in the slightest.
Sephiroth912
30-12-2006, 14:53
He didn't look like it. They've got photos and videos up of him right up to the point where they put the noose around his neck and I noticed he looked real calm and accepting of his fate.
However, I don't know. I think it was really, REALLY stupid of them to kill him when they are quite sure that it will cause more violence to erupt especially in a country that is on the brink of civil war. I don't mind the fact that they killed him for what he did, it's just that the timing of it along with the way the countries handled it doesn't seem right. Bush came out hailing this to be a "milestone in Iraq," yet how much of a milestone is it if you KNOW it's going to only cause more violence, the thing he claims he wants to stop in Iraq.
Now, they did say that the excecution (Death by hanging) was videotaped and photographed. Myself, I don't want to see it
I agree. Nothing more to add other than that.
However, I don't know. I think it was really, REALLY stupid of them to kill him when they are quite sure that it will cause more violence to erupt especially in a country that is on the brink of civil war. I don't mind the fact that they killed him for what he did, it's just that the timing of it along with the way the countries handled it doesn't seem right. Bush came out hailing this to be a "milestone in Iraq," yet how much of a milestone is it if you KNOW it's going to only cause more violence, the thing he claims he wants to stop in Iraq.
I agree. I said almost the exact same thing to a friend yesterday when we were talking about it =/
Yeah, he's destroyed the lives of a lot of people and that was wrong, he deserves to be punished for something as horrible as that.
But, this execution will cause more problems imo than it can solve, as Seph said, it will cause more violence and anger to erupt...personally I'd think it would be better if he'd been sentenced to a life in prison, sure it'd anger a few people but not as many as it would when he's being executed...
Not going to beat a dead horse as I've said it many times before, but just going to say that I'm still not a fan of how they invaded Iraq (the soldiers have my respect and sympathy, just don't like the actual decision and whatnot to invade Iraq. But just gonna leave it at that, don't wanna start up another "Iraq invasion" debate)...In my view, with most politics there's not one side that's completely "correct", the blade cuts on 2 sides you know...and there's a lot that the government doesn't tell the people (not talking about one specific government in particular, talking about all of them, none of them will ever tell the public everything what's going on). =/
So to conclude, I'm not jumping for joy now knowing that he's dead, nor am I sad about it, but I am worried more than anything, this will cause problems for sure. =/
Gotta say that I dunno how I feel about the death penalty in general either, it just seems really depressing that humans have to end up killing one another for peace eh...
Bah, politics ><
I've seen the execution video, it was all shaky and you didn't see the drop, heard it, and you saw him hanging there afterwards with his neck all mangled. It was horrible.
i just seen that video, it was like a hidden camera and you could only see it when a flash went off,
it was hosted by like chaaban.com or something.
Zidane007nl
31-12-2006, 22:12
I think its right that Saddam Hussein has been trailed and convicted. But executing him is kinda far. I think a lifetime in prison would be a better sentence for him. He killed a lot of innocent lives and a lifetime in prison would make him think what he has done...
And the war in Iraq was a total mistake. Now every day innocent people die, because of the war against the different folks living there.
Sephiroth912
31-12-2006, 22:20
The US tends to pay more attention to the number of Americans who have died in Iraq than the Iraqis themselves. About 3000 US soldiers died so far and they name each soldier that dies and recount this number in articles daily, yet they hardly ever mention the fact that I believe close to, if not more than, 100,000 civilians have been killed in Iraq thus far.
Depu Techiikue
01-01-2007, 23:12
Allow me to quote Immortal Technique...
[The US government] calls abortion murder in a medical building, but doesn't give a **** about bombing Iraqi children.
It's from a song released by him that attacks the US government for all of this that has been happening (not Saddam's capture, though).
I saw the video footage that leaked onto the internet of his execution. I saw from where they brought him up to the rope, until they took the noose off of his dead body...
Personally, I'm not a big fan of the death penalty, so I would've preferred to see him spend the rest of his life in a miserable cell, living in solitude. Think about it... a lot of evil dictators who have killed thousands of lives have all gotten the easy way out. Saddam was hung, Hitler killed himself, Mussolini was shot and hung... I think they should've made him sit and think about what he did for the rest of his life. What he did to his victims, their families, their friends, everything... If I were an evil dictator who did this, I'd suffer more from reminiscing on my crimes on a regular basis as opposed to being executed and passing on.
I dont like the death sentence either, but there was no other way. If Saddam was kept in prison, the prison would always be in danger from people attacking it to release Saddam, atleast this way whatever happens Saddam won't be free'd, no matter what happened it would go bad anyway, whether he was still alive now or had been executed, we will still see the same events that will begin to occur.
Tharrick
02-01-2007, 14:22
I think they should've made him sit and think about what he did for the rest of his life.
If I were an evil dictator who did this, I'd suffer more from reminiscing on my crimes on a regular basis
That wouldn't be a punishment. Do you think he considers what he did as crimes? He seemed pretty proud of his 'achievements' to me.
However, as glad as I am that he's dead now, having seen footage of the execution I think it should have been performed with more... professionalism. It's not the place of the executioner to taunt the man he's hanging, and all that'll do is provoke more anger.
Depu Techiikue
02-01-2007, 17:15
That wouldn't be a punishment. Do you think he considers what he did as crimes? He seemed pretty proud of his 'achievements' to me.
However, as glad as I am that he's dead now, having seen footage of the execution I think it should have been performed with more... professionalism. It's not the place of the executioner to taunt the man he's hanging, and all that'll do is provoke more anger.
Well I don't really think he'd consider them as crimes, but I know he would definitely look differently upon them. He would definitely think over everything he's done. But who knows, maybe execution was best for him. Afterall, when they started chanting "For God" in Arabic, Saddam looked as if he was going to cry.
I just think that living in solitude confined in a cell would force his memories to haunt him. I'm basing this off of past experiences where similar things have happened, only not this extreme. Look at Napoleon, when he invaded Russia with hundreds of thousands of soldiers and returned with less than 20,000--and he didn't even do any battle--and was exiled, then came back to lose, they sent him off again, and no one ever heard from him or about him again. There are more scenarios similar to this, so I just thought something would work for Saddam.
Sephiroth912
02-01-2007, 17:24
However, as glad as I am that he's dead now, having seen footage of the execution I think it should have been performed with more... professionalism. It's not the place of the executioner to taunt the man he's hanging, and all that'll do is provoke more anger.
There's already people getting pissed off in Iraq over that. The footage was taken via cell phone and the Iraqi government claims they're making a full inquiry into the whole thing. The whole execution was and still is a mess for much of the world.
Ya'll prolly aint gonna beleive me, but what to the ever.
He's probably not dead. America made him who he is any way.
Plus...Iraq is so much worse now since the Americans decided to ****in but in.
Oh and he deserves a million deaths. A hundred million. TORTURE. Now. We just need to do the same to George bush.
Zandor Strife
05-01-2007, 21:37
HOLY CRAP!!!!
Sorry for the caps you guys, but this is a surprise for me.
So is this for real or a pratical joke made by some kid, but if it's real then I'm glad that he got hung.
Uh. Where ahve you been? It's been all over the news...for three years, now.
Sephiroth912
06-01-2007, 15:26
Mostly in the US only I believe. I do not believe that this is a hoax at all. There's really a simple reason because otherwise I might agree with you simply because I was confused over the entire thing the day they were planning to hang him. This reason is the video of him hanging. It's grainy and was taken via cell phone and now Iraq and the Islamic community is all in an uproar because of how Saddam's executioners were taunting him and the like, which is causing the Iraqi government, therefore, to step in and investigate the whole thing.
Zandor Strife
09-01-2007, 19:31
I know that it was on the news for 3 years now, but to find out that he's been Executed has surprised me big time.
If this is for real then I'm glad that he's dead, but if it's a hoax then shame on the person that filmed that video.
hanging him was to swift what we should have done was all the tings he did to people do it right back to him then hang him.
hanging him was to swift what we should have done was all the tings he did to people do it right back to him then hang him.
I see what you mean when you say that, but...what would that accomplish aye? It wouldn't bring the deceased victims back, it wouldn't help anything at all. If anything it'd make things even more messy than they are. Also wouldn't that be lowering yourself to his level? =/ I mean he deserves a severe punishment for all the horrible things he did but come on. It helps none.
Allow me to quote Immortal Technique...
It's from a song released by him that attacks the US government for all of this that has been happening (not Saddam's capture, though).
I saw the video footage that leaked onto the internet of his execution. I saw from where they brought him up to the rope, until they took the noose off of his dead body...
Personally, I'm not a big fan of the death penalty, so I would've preferred to see him spend the rest of his life in a miserable cell, living in solitude. Think about it... a lot of evil dictators who have killed thousands of lives have all gotten the easy way out. Saddam was hung, Hitler killed himself, Mussolini was shot and hung... I think they should've made him sit and think about what he did for the rest of his life. What he did to his victims, their families, their friends, everything... If I were an evil dictator who did this, I'd suffer more from reminiscing on my crimes on a regular basis as opposed to being executed and passing on.
wow i guess immortal technique is a misinformed **** then if you actually understood why people do this in war is for many reasons i will not explain and the UK government is doing it also so shut up about America being bad and those were actually artillery shells fired at Iraqi insurgents hiding behind school buildings and heavily populated areas and they have soldiers pinned down by heavy fire and if you don't know artillery is not very accurate and America is paying for research to make a more accurate cannon and shell right now we do have one and it hits with in 10ft of it's target so we are also trying to reduce children death's so immortal technique can **** himself for being misinformed plus no matter what all soldiers **** up and accidentally hit civilians and kill them even British troops have killed children it is one of the many things that cannot be avoided in war.
plus the us and UK government do this to protect you from the after shock we have it better than almost every country and if we left alot of those who don't have guns but hate America and the uk alive they will bomb us and kill us just out of hatred and spite so our governments are doing what it takes to protect it's own country while trying to help other's at the same time plus America has sent over 80 billion dollars to help in iraq we have done food drops for the people and soldiers gave toys to the children of Iraq who cannot buy them for them self so dont listen to rappers or antigovernmentalists unless they are right and hardly ever are.
I see what you mean when you say that, but...what would that accomplish aye? It wouldn't bring the deceased victims back, it wouldn't help anything at all. If anything it'd make things even more messy than they are. Also wouldn't that be lowering yourself to his level? =/ I mean he deserves a severe punishment for all the horrible things he did but come on. It helps none.
yes it does because it puts the survivers at ease. plus an eye for an eye.
yes it does because it puts the survivers at ease. plus an eye for an eye.
No, it doesn't bring the deceased back, no, it doesn't help anyone, and no, it does not put the survivors totally at ease. What would, would be just simple peace between the nations. That's a bit hard to get but that is the best satisfaction for the survivors.
And an eye for an eye, you're sort of right there, but with the way how things are going in Iraq, it can just as easily conjure up a war where it's the Eastern countries against the Western countries. Like Mirae said, it would only make things more messy than they already are.
No, it doesn't bring the deceased back, no, it doesn't help anyone, and no, it does not put the survivors totally at ease. What would, would be just simple peace between the nations. That's a bit hard to get but that is the best satisfaction for the survivors.
And an eye for an eye, you're sort of right there, but with the way how things are going in Iraq, it can just as easily conjure up a war where it's the Eastern countries against the Western countries. Like Mirae said, it would only make things more messy than they already are.
Actually, it did help to put many people at ease. People that lost families due to him were celebrating his death for finally getting the revenge they wanted. Though, I don't think this will help solve any problems with war over there >_> But, it does get rid of on evil dictator that has performed many cruel and despicable acts. May not be "right", but I still think it's for the best, if he's alive, he will have followers, if he has followers, he will have power. In death, his power is gone.
Actually, it did help to put many people at ease. People that lost families due to him were celebrating his death for finally getting the revenge they wanted. Though, I don't think this will help solve any problems with war over there >_> But, it does get rid of on evil dictator that has performed many cruel and despicable acts. May not be "right", but I still think it's for the best, if he's alive, he will have followers, if he has followers, he will have power. In death, his power is gone.
Oh no no no, you deffinetly have your point. But I was more talking about giving Saddam a more cruelsome death, doing everything to him that he put people through as Rocky said wouldn't have been the best choice if you ask me. It would cause even a bigger uproar for those people in Iraq/where-ever-in-the-east who actually followed him so religiously. I deffinetly I agree with you there Mun, but I was more commenting on the comment of Rocky, thats it. The rest I agree with, like I said in that post...
And an eye for an eye, you're sort of right there
Like, in the sense he's right to have had him killed, just not in an oh-so-cruel way. Even though he probably deserves it, you're better off not to. I was just commenting more specifically, that's all.
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