View Full Version : FFVII: Killer Game!?!?!
Kai Hiwatari
18-01-2007, 22:26
http://kotaku.com/gaming/germany/germanys-latest-killer-game-final-fantasy-vii-229049.php
umm....i think this article speaks for itself...
society is getting dummer and dummer....>.<''
Zidane007nl
18-01-2007, 23:02
Yeah, indeed... >.<
I red somewhere that the girl that was taken hostage said that the killers weren't taking names from Final Fantasy VII and that the media has stuffed it up with lies. Like that Final Fantasy VII is a killer game while it isn't and the boys were under alcoholic influence but they weren't...
Tharrick
18-01-2007, 23:44
Video games are and will remain a convenient scapegoat for violent crime. It's disgusting.
rakusu_klein
19-01-2007, 09:59
Ehh...
this happened before, but then with Squall, and I believe Seifer...
really, those people are pathetic.
GET A LIFE ><
Sephiroth912
19-01-2007, 21:36
Video games are and will remain a convenient scapegoat for violent crime. It's disgusting.
The same goes for music too. It's just retarded what people think.
My teacher told me that he saw a study where kids who played video games a lot had little or no morals and the kids that didnt play video games had them. I play video games a lot (only occasionally graphic ones), I watch plenty of graphic horror movies and listen to music that would piss people off with just the names. Yet honestly, I'm probably one of the nicest guys you can meet (though I can be a little...out there at times)
okay lets see another video game blamed for killings and crime's the same thing happened with rockstars man hunt a kid in england was convicted and proven guilty of killing his friend but their American lawyer and the victims parents blamed manhunt for showing it's gratuitous violence but the kid even said he needed money for drugs and his friend wouldn't give it to him so he hammered him to death. but the crazy lawyer believes it is the games fault and that video game industry is paying everyone off with hush money (yeah right especially since the attorney general will except money to ban games from the us and close down all the us producers) so this is not common since many people find video games a disgrace. so this war on vido games will continue by striking out popular titles and companies just because one large group of people hat videa games.
Tharrick
21-01-2007, 01:35
the same thing happened with rockstars man hunt a kid in england was convicted and proven guilty of killing his friend but their American lawyer and the victims parents blamed manhunt for showing it's gratuitous violence
And when the truth came out, it turned out that the murderer didn't own Manhunt and had never even played it.
Sephiroth912
21-01-2007, 01:38
And when the truth came out, it turned out that the murderer didn't own Manhunt and had never even played it.
Reminds me of Marilyn Manson with the Columbine incident. The media had a field day, using Manson's lyrics and imagery as a scapegoat for the incidents but it all came out soon after that the kids hated his music.
And when the truth came out, it turned out that the murderer didn't own Manhunt and had never even played it.
actually that was a lie the kid did not own manhunt but he did play it at the victims house since they were friends.and the victim owned manhunt.
Sephiroth912
21-01-2007, 02:46
actually that was a lie the kid did not own manhunt but he did play it at the victims house since they were friends.and the victim owned manhunt.
Well then, that sounds pretty gay, seeing as how wouldn't it be the victim's parents' fault for buying the game for their kid in the first place?
Well then, that sounds pretty gay, seeing as how wouldn't it be the victim's parents' fault for buying the game for their kid in the first place?
yes that may be true but not according to law since the kid played the game he was induced to it's murdering way's therefore it is his fault and not the victims parents.his murder was for drug money and the game had nothing to do with it so it was kicked out of the case for obvious reasons.
also i am going to make a thread for discussing this war on video games.
Sephiroth912
21-01-2007, 03:23
saw the thread and yes, I understand what you are saying, but it seems moronic that the parents blame the game that they probably bought for the kid and everything.
Also, back on topic for THIS story, Sephiroth and Reno were simply their codenames, nothing more. In all honesty, though I wouldn't obviously, I'd probably wind up using Seph as a nickname for something like this. It's a cool name for a cooler and mysterious type of guy, not for the way he seems to enjoy killing (he's really, in all truth, just completely crazy)
Tharrick
21-01-2007, 16:36
actually that was a lie the kid did not own manhunt but he did play it at the victims house since they were friends.and the victim owned manhunt.
Even if he had played it, he was far from the obsessive fan of the game that the media made him out to be.
"Movies doesn't create psychopaths, it only gives them better ideas."
A quote from the movie, Scream. And although it says "movies", I'd think the same would go for videogames. If a normally sane person played a videogame, I doubt they'd just go out on a murder frenzy just because a person in a game did the same. Though, if they already have a screw loose in their head. There's no saying what they'd do if they'd get influenced by... anything, really.
People used to blame horror movies, and now they blame videogames. People just need something to blame when crazy people actually go... crazy, and that's disgusting in my opinion. Why not just face the probable fact that no matter what happened the killers would've killed?
Dale Anthony
22-01-2007, 14:10
"Movies doesn't create psychopaths, it only gives them better ideas."
A quote from the movie, Scream. And although it says "movies", I'd think the same would go for videogames. If a normally sane person played a videogame, I doubt they'd just go out on a murder frenzy just because a person in a game did the same. Though, if they already have a screw loose in their head. There's no saying what they'd do if they'd get influenced by... anything, really.
People used to blame horror movies, and now they blame videogames. People just need something to blame when crazy people actually go... crazy, and that's disgusting in my opinion. Why not just face the probable fact that no matter what happened the killers would've killed?
Regardless or not, if whether it was the game's fault or not it's proof that this generation's kids need to grow up. To think that playing games in the first place would cause violence. If this is the case, why market a game which involves you stalking streets, sleeping with prostitutes and killing gang members. The media is a market for wannabe killers. Sometimes, music/games/movies, no matter how bad you feel about what you've just heard, will always INFLUENCE people to do things. Even if it's not neccessarily true. I'm personally not saying this kid kidnapped a girl because of FFVII, what I'm saying is, no matter what you think, anything, especially the media is an influence.
Unlike Kaizero, though blaming something inappropriate is a bad idea, society itself is not what it used to be. Kids are too bloody immature, companies who market things should know this. If it's such a killer though, why would it be rated 11+?
Eveningstill
31-03-2007, 13:02
Hey, I heard about this a couple of years ago, I live near the west-German border, but something similar to this has happened in Holland as well, I'll try to find an article that describes it, but it concerned two teenagers that had a Buster Sword replica, and one of them being dressed up as Link from Zelda :X
If I remember correctly they killed in the north and then went back to where they came from: GERMANY!
Not to be rude, I am no amoralic, racist ass, except when it comes to Germans (has a historical explanation) Is it just me or do I see a pattern?
Those bastards... those crazy german Sephiroth and Reno wannabe murderer bastards...
What's next? Cloud, Tifa, Aerith, Cid, Barret, Yuffie, Nanaki, Rufus, Zack, Rude, Tseng, Aerith... Hojo?! All the people in Germany with those names better get out of that f*ing country fast... or they'll end up eating bullet through the chest dishes served by two immature bastards killing with the names of two completely fictional video game characters.
"So...what next? German kids spraypainting animals, forcing them to mate, then beatting them to death?"
- AlteredBeast
Yeah, what he said.
Michael Fahey, you suck... go to hell...
Dragonheardt
30-07-2007, 08:03
This isn't suprising, but as Eveningstill said, im not racist or anything, but this happened before. If you go to Germany they HATE their past and won't mention it (Nazi Era). They go as far as the Nazi symbol being outlawed in Germany, but all that symbol was, was a reversed version of a catholic emblem. As far as this incident goes, it's not affecting the US, so whatever. I'm simply the kind of person who worries about himself and anyone who is not in correlation with me, doesn't get a second thought, and rarely a first thought about their troubles. It's cold, but it avoids unecessary drama. What those kids did (I'm 17 as well, but whatever) is the same thing as Kim-Jong Il. Demented freak. It thoroughly annoys me that people blame the games or the movies. They are avoiding their own damn lack of parenting. It definately hits an angry spot in my mind.
Miley-Winters
17-11-2007, 20:12
I'm finding it more than redicolous, that the adults and the society still blame videogames for muders among teenagers or young adults. If I were a little bit older, I'd rather try not to sell weapons to emotinally unstable kids, instead of trying to ban videogames and movies. It's almost hilarious, how people always find a way to blame those. Kids (or Teens, ect) don't become agressive or murderous in any way, if they play games or watch films, at least "normal" kids don't. There has to be a influence from outside (parents fighting, mobbing at school and so on..) to make kids or teens or young adults agressive, depressed and freaked out by everything! So called "Killergames" may make the hatred or the wish to kill stronger, but these games don't work their way in the minds of children on their own.
Just needed to say that :D
Kai Hiwatari
17-11-2007, 21:14
If I were a little bit older, I'd rather try not to sell weapons to emotinally unstable kids, instead of trying to ban videogames and movies.
Only one issue here~ how would you be able to tell if a kid was "emotionally unstable"? would they print like ID cards with "STABLE" and "UNSTABLE" on them? lol XD
Its impossible to tell whether a person buying a wepon will use it for real or display, impossible and almost impossible to tell if they are buying for a younger friend. These days "thuggish" youths are refused wepons and only people over 18 are allowed to buy wepons.
The thing is though, if you're gonna kill, you're gonna kill regardless of whych FF or GTA you have played...
seriously i bet theres sope poor killer out there who only killed because his little sister forced him to play Barbie games with him for 10 hours straight. Are they gonna ban Barbie games? noooo~ I think not :P
Tharrick
18-11-2007, 16:22
hey go as far as the Nazi symbol being outlawed in Germany, but all that symbol was, was a reversed version of a catholic emblem.
Buddhist, Dragonheardt
I'm looking forward to the next type of entertainment that comes along. The new kid on the block in terms of media ios always blamed for societies ills. You used to hear all the time about music encouraging violence or films causing violence, and now you rarely do. Now its all about games. As a result films are going to town and exploting the fact no-one consideres them responsible anymroe by going out and making stuff like Saw, Hostel and Eastern Promises.
People'll eventually grow out of using games as a scapegoat and use something else instead. For gamers its just a case of weathering the storm.
Kai Hiwatari
18-11-2007, 17:49
They go as far as the Nazi symbol being outlawed in Germany, but all that symbol was, was a reversed version of a catholic emblem.
In the UK they have gone as far as (in poole anyways) removing the Barclays Bank eagle (which has been their logo sonce before the war) because it was "offensive and similar to that of the Nazi's) Technically the Nazi eagle was copied from barclays! gah the world is far to "Politically Correct".....¬_¬
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