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Sixthcrusifix
01-10-2005, 23:45
Which do you like to use? Personaly I love mozilla the most. I also have IE, Netscape 7 and Opera but I really have the least conflict with Firefox. HTML/CSS compatability isn't much of an issue because through PHP you can give different content for different browser (if you have PHP) But there are some other things that I think really seperate IE and Firefox
Good about IE:
Popular - Every Windows user has it, most use it.
Compatable - Compatibal with most of the popular media players etc.
Quick - it's pretty instant. It's a relativly low-drain program that won't eat up your RAM.
BAD things about IE:
CSS - 6.0 does not fully make use of CSS's possibilities.
Old - 6.0 is the newest so far and it's been around forever! There are very few updates and very little good modifications to be made.
Spyware - Being one of the most popular, and most defencless browsers IE is quite possibly the most targeted progran for spyware and viruses etc. Errors are NOT an uncommon occurance.
Good about Mozilla Firefox:
XML/CSS integration - Unlike IE, Mozilla allows you to use XML wil CSS in an HTML document without defining the XML! More info HERE (http://www.freepgs.com/sixthcrusifix/MAIN/XML.php)
CSS -Mozilla, in my opinion, makes better use of CSS than IE. While it doesn't support some of the basic things like blinking text it does support some of CSS's more advanced features.
Reliable/Secure - RARELY do I get errors with firefox and it allows you to chose whether or not sites can download content to your computer.
updates - Firefox is open source AND has many usefull modifications/updates.
Bad about Firefox:
CSS - Like I said, firefox's CSS doesn't support some basic text effects and other things.
Incompatability - I've yet to succesfully view a music video from Launch.com with firefox.
RAM - If you have a lot of tabs open or leave mozilla on forever it can realy slow things down especialy on an older computer. While IE CAN do this whne it's messing up it usualy doesn't require around 35-45 MB of ram like Firefox.
Please note that I'm really not some expert or a programmer or anything. I really just want to kow for site developement. While I can give different content depedning on browser it's very inconvenient to try to accomodate to every browser.
Please also note that at this time I'm not at MY computer with Firefox so I may have made a mistake on that XML test page on my site. But I'm pretty sure I did it right.
Trigani-Maru-Suke
01-10-2005, 23:52
My vote goes towards FireFox http://img400.imageshack.us/img400/4838/fflove3gf.gif it's not perfect but I find it better than IE.
TriggerHappi:D
02-10-2005, 00:00
Same here, Firefox owns all browsers. I find it a whole lot better than Internet Explorer...don't ask me why, just do.
its a no brainer this one, Firefox is the better one.
you forgot to add in the bad about IE:
Microsoft.
Dale Anthony
02-10-2005, 00:11
Firefox is better...but I can't be arsed to download it. So I'm using IE either way.
Tharrick
02-10-2005, 01:01
I use both, for a number of reasons.
FF: Tabbed browsing FTW, and it's got a range of handy features. BUT!!! Many websites won't display in it, since several are still designed to only display in IE. Also, it's a memory-hog that lags my computer back to the stone age. Download manager is nice though.
IE: Can be modded for tabbed browsing, if I wasn't so lazy. Single page only at the moment, but faster to load. And I have a download manager for it, so that's not a problem either.
Also, Firefox has crashed more times than IE for me, and lets more popups through than SP2's popup blocker. And since I do regular adware sweeps anyway, that's also not a problem.
There is a rebuild of IE done to incl-ude tabs and more security, I will find it for you soon, a friend of mine knows it but I can't remember what it was called.
Big Boss
02-10-2005, 02:44
I just use IE...that's it...I'm too lazy to use another. The other broswer I use though, is Opera.
I'm way to used to IE to switch. I've switched to FireFox for a bit and it worked well for me, but bleh.
Sixthcrusifix
02-10-2005, 03:34
There is a rebuild of IE done to incl-ude tabs and more security, I will find it for you soon, a friend of mine knows it but I can't remember what it was called.
That sounds great cuz those are my main problems with IE.
I love how opera tells you the rate of your uploads in the status bar, hate the ads. Netscape 7 rocks but 8 SUCKS ASSS DON'T DOWNLOAD NETSCAPE 8 BROWSER, just stick with netscape 7.
Also, I do agree that microsoft sucks. But I also feel that mac OSX and in fact everything made by apple, ALSO SUCKS. BADLY. (Althougyh iPODs are okay) Linux is my OS of choice but it's not an option for me. Windows is really the best OS for the industry at this time because the programs I use like Photoshop, Illustrator, Flash and InDesign all run on windows and work best on windows. I can't Stand the mouse system of Mac OSX (Or the older OSs by apple) and the screen resolution is actually lower in apple computers than IBM (PC) So photo manipulation is much easier on a PC. I feel that Apple computers hanbdle their processors much better but overall windows is more convenient. The minute they convert some of the industry standard software to work with linux windows is getting ditched!
So anyway I use Netscape when IE won't play music files, Opera when I'm uploading big files, IE when I want to view something the other 3 can't (Certain CSS etc.) and I generally use Mozilla just because my IE is screwed up and crashes a lot.
i like both. ie has alot of plugins already with it so you dont have to pay and dwonload but the bandwith size is smaller. firefox is faster and more reliable.
Well I use Firefox since my IE right now is just really f*cked up. I still get pop-ups from IE and yet I don't even use it and maybe once in awhile I get a pop-up in Firefox, but that's a rare occurance. I mainly like Firefox cause it has some nice features, it's faster (well for me it is) and it's safer than IE, but some sites don't work or some pages on a site don't work which sucks. So I have to go use IE to view them or something.
Sixthcrusifix
02-10-2005, 06:00
Well I use Firefox since my IE right now is just really f*cked up. I still get pop-ups from IE and yet I don't even use it and maybe once in awhile I get a pop-up in Firefox, but that's a rare occurance. I mainly like Firefox cause it has some nice features, it's faster (well for me it is) and it's safer than IE, but some sites don't work or some pages on a site don't work which sucks. So I have to go use IE to view them or something.
Yeah. I CONSTANTLY get pop ups in IE but I've never gotton one in firefox if I didn't have it open.
I like fire fox... go fire fox!
Tharrick
02-10-2005, 09:46
Auron, if you're getting popups from IE when you're not using it, you're ad-ware'd. Do yourself an adware and spyware check, you'd be surprised what you turn up.
Remember Charm? That lazy git used to get popups even when he wasn't connected to the internet. It went on for months, and every time, I would say to him 'Charm, dude, get yourself an adware killer'
In the end, I shoved him out of his seat, downloaded ad-aware and ran it. About 2000 critical items :P
Dr. Aeyze
02-10-2005, 10:37
I use IE. But that's only because I'm far too lazy & forgetful to get another browser, though my best friend preaches to me about how I should download Firefox. But I'm so laaaaaazy x_X
Sixthcrusifix
02-10-2005, 10:54
Auron, if you're getting popups from IE when you're not using it, you're ad-ware'd. Do yourself an adware and spyware check, you'd be surprised what you turn up.
Remember Charm? That lazy git used to get popups even when he wasn't connected to the internet. It went on for months, and every time, I would say to him 'Charm, dude, get yourself an adware killer'
In the end, I shoved him out of his seat, downloaded ad-aware and ran it. About 2000 critical items :P
Shh, I wish I could do that! Whenever I try to use Spybot, I have SO much Spyware that that spybot CRASHES before it gets through with the scan. I hate Spybot, the longer you use it the more ram it eats up, and even worse the Virtual Memory it takes up, I swear it goes up exponentialy!!! It actualy took up twice as much RAM as I actually physically have! :(
oh DAMNIT TO HELL! i WAS JUST DRINKING SOME water and I was stupid and gulpd up a whole mouth full and my throat hurts OOOOW!
Zidane007nl
02-10-2005, 11:19
I use IE almost all the time with Google Toolbar and SP2 upgrade. Works fine for me. I only use Firefox now to see if HHN looks alright.
I've just downloaded Opera and it looks nice, only some things look different. And Sixthcrusifix, the new Opera is Ad Free!
» Moves to Bits & Bytes forum
Incompatability - I've yet to succesfully view a music video from Launch.com with firefox. Go to www.codecguide.com and download the K-Lite Mega Codec Pack (not in any way affiliated with the Kazaa program itself). Make sure you install Media Player Classic, DirectVobSub, QuickTime Alternative and Real Alternative. Then configure the MIME settings of QT Alternative to play videos/midi files.
I have yet to have a problem with playing background music or videos online.
While it doesn't support some of the basic things like blinking textThis is untrue. I visited a forum that used the <blink> tag (or whatever its called), and Firefox flashed that text by default. IE did not.
I always thought <blink> was an IE specific tag...
RAM - If you have a lot of tabs open or leave mozilla on forever it can realy slow things down especialy on an older computer. While IE CAN do this whne it's messing up it usualy doesn't require around 35-45 MB of ram like Firefox.Although I am a Firefox fanboy, I acknowledge this problem. I leave my fox online all day, and at the end it is using 100 MB of the swap file. I have 2 GB ram btw.
Firefox also sometimes semi-crash (ie it gives the "not responding" error for 1 sec) when I have 10 tabs open and click on the tab with phpDocumentor in it. For some reason.
I love how opera tells you the rate of your uploads in the status bar, hate the ads.Download Opera 8.50 mate, its free now. NO ads.
Shh, I wish I could do that! Whenever I try to use Spybot, I have SO much Spyware that that spybot CRASHES before it gets through with the scan. I hate Spybot, the longer you use it the more ram it eats up, and even worse the Virtual Memory it takes up, I swear it goes up exponentialy!!! It actualy took up twice as much RAM as I actually physically have! :(Thats really weird dude, though you should stay away from Ad-Aware then. A mate of mine had 500 items and it crashed constantly after 58k files.
Course he was using a shitty laptop.
I love spybot, I run a scan once a month and I get a few tracking cookies here and there, nothing more. The Immunize things are great.
Oh and you should download SpywareBlaster, its not a cleaning tool but a prevention tool. It blocks bad things from getting on your computer through IE & Firefox, like tracking cookies. Its not running in the bg, just making the process of using the browsers' filters easier :)
@ all the people who claim you are too lazy to download Firefox even though you know its better: I call Bullshit on the entire deal. It takes less effort to click your mouse 5 times to start the download than it takes to type up your post explaining in explicit detail that you KNOW FF is better yet to laaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaazy to download it.
It just really annoys me, thats like saying "I know I have a virus on my computer and I should really get rid of it before it infects my boot sector, but Im just too lazy to download and use an antivirus program". Wtf?
alexanderpas
02-10-2005, 18:52
@everyone: you might want to read this: http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-3513_7-6333507-1.html and in the meantime you might aswell download firefox from http://getfirefox.com/
Good about IE:
Popular - Every Windows user has it, most use it.And that's a good thing?Quick - it's pretty instant. It's a relativly low-drain program that won't eat up your RAM. Dóh, I's being partially loaded into your memory when you boot
Bad about Firefox:
CSS - Like I said, firefox's CSS doesn't support some basic text effects and other things.uhm... those effects are not official CSS they're MSSS (MicroShitStyleSheetd :D) << intentional
Okay... i know... i'm a FireFox Fan, hence my sig
anyone noticed this,
if FireFox == "FF" and "FF" == Final Fantasy then.... .... .... .... . . . _ _ _ . . .
Yeah even when I scan my computer for spyware and get rid of it all, the pop-ups still come up and stuff.... though I don't believe i've got an adware killer (unless of course that Lavasoft one you showed me Tharrick is a adware killer too). I've got this Firewall thing which stops pop-ups but when I open a program (everything else opens normally though) such as a game it stops it so I have to disable it and I get the pop-ups =(
Tharrick
03-10-2005, 17:56
Lavasoft is brilliant, it'll get pretty much all of your adware out. I've never had any problems with it crashing in the middle of a scan or anything
http://www.maxthon.com/
Theres the tabbed browser rebuild of IE I was telling you about, it's worth a look, it might be the answer.
Sixthcrusifix
03-10-2005, 19:56
This is untrue. I visited a forum that used the <blink> tag (or whatever its called), and Firefox flashed that text by default. IE did not.
I always thought <blink> was an IE specific tag...
I was talkng about in CSS when you do the style:
<style typ="text/CSS">
.blink {text-decoration:blink;}
</style>
That won't show in firefox. I didn't even realize there was a "<blink>" Tag. loll.
AAAHHH New opera is ad free???? EXCITING! I like non-addiness.
@everyone: you might want to read this: http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-3513_7-6333507-1.html and in the meantime you might aswell download firefox from http://getfirefox.com/
And that's a good thing?.
well I guess not. I wish everyone at least used Firefox or Mozilla, then I'd have a great time sticking my XML right into my HTML and styling it with CSS without the hassel!
nemesiskoen
04-10-2005, 17:34
<style typ="text/CSS">
.blink {text-decoration:blink;}
</style>
That's not even W3 valid as I recall.
I use all browsers which are known to me.
Firefox, Mozilla, Avant, Opera, Netscape, Konqueror (Linux), (linux Firefox, not much of a difference), IE, Safari (that's when I'm using Mac), NetRaider (Linux), Amaya (Linux + Windows), and some others that I have forgotten.
Why you might ask... That's because I not only want my website to be W3 valid, but also to work in every possible browser there is.
I'm now using Firefox to see this website.
For those who don't know: there is a difference between Mozilla and Firefox. Firefox belongs to Mozilla, but Mozilla is another, much safer, web/file browser.
So bassicly:
Mozilla Or IE ==> Mozilla: it's much safer, faster, tabs, RSS (in firefox, not really sure about mozilla, I think it does) included, and much more...
Sixthcrusifix
04-10-2005, 21:45
<style typ="text/CSS">
.blink {text-decoration:blink;}
</style>
That's not even W3 valid as I recall.
I use all browsers which are known to me.
Firefox, Mozilla, Avant, Opera, Netscape, Konqueror (Linux), (linux Firefox, not much of a difference), IE, Safari (that's when I'm using Mac), NetRaider (Linux), Amaya (Linux + Windows), and some others that I have forgotten.
Why you might ask... That's because I not only want my website to be W3 valid, but also to work in every possible browser there is.
I'm now using Firefox to see this website.
For those who don't know: there is a difference between Mozilla and Firefox. Firefox belongs to Mozilla, but Mozilla is another, much safer, web/file browser.
So bassicly:
Mozilla Or IE ==> Mozilla: it's much safer, faster, tabs, RSS (in firefox, not really sure about mozilla, I think it does) included, and much more...
Oh well I just know that it worked in IE, maybe that's like the blink tag
I use Mozilla/Opera/Netscape and IE so I can make my site multiu-compatable too. ANd I used to use Konqurer (spelling?) Before my Linux Computer crashed. But I think it's not too big of a deal using Mozilla AND Mozilla-Firefox because chances are if it works in Firefox it will work in Mozilla.
I don't worry about anything past those top 4 though because Making your site compatibal with everything is TOO inconvenient. You can either just make it work and settle with the script that doesn't interact but it's hard to avoid sometimes (Like IE having trouble sending Hidden Form Attributes etc.) So it's even better to use PHO to echo different content based on browser but THEN you have the whole, FIle size problem and when you put in too much code the page takes too long to load. I've never heard of Safari, what's it like? ANyway, I think IE and Mozilla Firefox are thew most used. That's what's on all the CPU's at my College and they're wwhat I'm most worried about.
someone try that maxthon crap and let me know how it is
nemesiskoen
05-10-2005, 10:54
Safari's the standard MAC webbrowser. Unlinke IE and FF it doesn't has any faults in the code. (IE has 6000 and FF has 12 (known)) Also it is ought to be the safest webbrowser there is. Maybe not the most strict, I'dd say Amaya is.
Grace Saunders
07-10-2005, 19:22
Firefox is fast. Try it now.
Your web browsers speed is dependant on your:
Processing power
Free Memory
Internet connection
So your statement is wrong.
no I concur with Grace, for once. Firefox, for me, displays web pages a lot faster than IE, about 2 second sfaster. Whenever I go to a webpage on IE, i have to wait 2 seconds or so before I see something, with IE it is almost instant that the page begins to form. I think thats just Firefox's way of compiling the page, perhaps they can do iti faster.
Even if firefox uses a form of compression, which im pretty sure it dosnt, webbrowsers are programs they can only be run as fast as the processor can run it at. so by saying webbrowser X is faster than Y is a flawed statement. its also very dependant on the servers load.
Sixthcrusifix
08-10-2005, 03:02
no I concur with Grace, for once. Firefox, for me, displays web pages a lot faster than IE, about 2 second sfaster. Whenever I go to a webpage on IE, i have to wait 2 seconds or so before I see something, with IE it is almost instant that the page begins to form. I think thats just Firefox's way of compiling the page, perhaps they can do iti faster.
Well I think that really has to do with the way Firefox and IE cache stuff. I think IE saves a buch of useless stuff in your cookies. I know that if I visit a website once or twice the next tie I go there the images load instantly in firefox. But Actully sometimes IE is faster for me. UNFORTUNATLY IE RARELY checks for new versions of the page even if you did revisit or change your settings. IE is the ONLY reason I always have to put
Header("Cache-Control:No-Cache");
Above all of my pages. IE is bad about that but I never have that problem with firefox (And NO it's NOT my settings, IE will save stuff even if I tell it not to).
Well I think that really has to do with the way Firefox and IE cache stuff. I think IE saves a buch of useless stuff in your cookies. I know that if I visit a website once or twice the next tie I go there the images load instantly in firefox. But Actully sometimes IE is faster for me. UNFORTUNATLY IE RARELY checks for new versions of the page even if you did revisit or change your settings. IE is the ONLY reason I always have to put
Header("Cache-Control:No-Cache");
Above all of my pages. IE is bad about that but I never have that problem with firefox (And NO it's NOT my settings, IE will save stuff even if I tell it not to).
Internet Explorer Caches EVERYTHING on a page, check your temporary internet files. the problem is most people, like me empty their temp internet files daily, because it takes up hard disk space.
Firefox however only caches frequently viewed pages, like a page thats been viewed more than 10 times. therefor the temp files are less to have to search through.
alexanderpas
08-10-2005, 15:59
IE is the ONLY reason I always have to put
Header("Cache-Control:No-Cache");
Above all of my pages. IE is bad about that but I never have that problem with firefox (And NO it's NOT my settings, IE will save stuff even if I tell it not to).
if you really wish to disable all caching, you should be using this code!
header("Expires: Mon, 26 Jul 1997 05:00:00 GMT"); // date in the past
header("Last-Modified: " . gmdate("D, d M Y H:i:s") . " GMT"); // changed always
header("Cache-Control: no-store, no-cache, must-revalidate"); // HTTP/1.1
header("Cache-Control: post-check=0, pre-check=0", false);
header("Pragma: no-cache"); // HTTP/1.0
Sixthcrusifix
12-10-2005, 07:30
if you really wish to disable all caching, you should be using this code!
header("Expires: Mon, 26 Jul 1997 05:00:00 GMT"); // date in the past
header("Last-Modified: " . gmdate("D, d M Y H:i:s") . " GMT"); // changed always
header("Cache-Control: no-store, no-cache, must-revalidate"); // HTTP/1.1
header("Cache-Control: post-check=0, pre-check=0", false);
header("Pragma: no-cache"); // HTTP/1.0
Yeah but just doing Cache-Controle:No-Cache is enough for what I want it for. I just hate when I change some HTML or code and it doesn't refresh right. I'd like for my images to be cached but at the same time I sometimes change them so I don't mind.
nemesiskoen
12-10-2005, 09:07
Isn't there a way to load FF, like IE does, into the memory when the computer starts up?
When you change your image in FF you also have to hit f5 to see it.
TheHackMan
17-11-2005, 02:48
I would say Firefox is definatly better than IE.
You can open things in TABS and not always open things in seperate WINDOWS
Firefox has more security than IE
Firefox has cooler skins
It has a random password generator
It has a script blocker
A bar where you can put your top favorites
Easier to use
Easier to find updates and it notifies you when new updates are availiable
Stores all your passwords for you
Can view and clear your History, Cookies, and Catche easier
I would say Firefox is definatly better than IE.
You can open things in TABS and not always open things in seperate WINDOWS
Firefox has more security than IE
Firefox has cooler skins
It has a random password generator
It has a script blocker
A bar where you can put your top favorites
Easier to use
Easier to find updates and it notifies you when new updates are availiable
Stores all your passwords for you
Can view and clear your History, Cookies, and Catche easier
Every reason why one would choose Firefox over IE! :)
Tharrick
17-11-2005, 23:48
However, firefox chews up my memory like nobody's business, to the extent that I get hiccups in my media programs when I have firefox open (and before anyone says anything, this thing's a 2.4GHz, 512m ram, so hardly crap, even if it is a bit dated), and takes forever to load for me
Which is why I use both. If I'm settling in for a long period, I'll use firefox. If I'm trying to do something quickly, I'll use IE. Plus, there are a lot of pages I view that don't display in firefox, that I use IE for
Omnicrone
31-01-2006, 15:59
MOZILLA, cause my IE caught a popup virus that caused the javascripts/css to all screw up.
alexanderpas
04-02-2006, 07:30
FireFox For the win... and because the're is a plugin called IE-tab, i'm never using IE again, for those pages that won't render in firefox, 1 click(!) and it renders with IE! IN A FIREFOX TAB!!!
final question... why does FF takes so long to load?
Awnser: It Doesn't! It's IE that load's faster because it's cheating (windows pre-loads some parts of IE at the startup of your PC)
and about the memory requirement of FF...
1 Screen of IE takes about 20 MB
1 Screen of FF takes about 35 MB
2 screens of IE takes about 35 MB
2 screens of FF takes about 35 MB
10 screens of IE takes about 160 MB
10 screens of FF takes about with 10 tabs in one of those screens take 50 MB
Mozilla plain and simple. Firefox is just better!
Satsujin
14-03-2006, 21:07
I've recently been forced to use an alternate to Internet Explorer failed on me, but it's back now. I don't like Firefox, most pages are not built for Firefox and therefore look wrong and table are out of place and to put it plainly it's a nightmare, so I'm a proud IE user.
To be honest I tried Firefox and couldn't understand whats all the fuss is about - it's exactly the same like IE for me. I dislike most of its features anyway so I stick with IE for now untill something better is released.
Zidane007nl
23-04-2006, 01:19
For the people using Firefox and playing Final Fantasy XI, there's a really usefull extension available. It's called Vana'diel Clock and will display the current time in Vana'diel in at the bottom right corner in Firefox with also complete stats of when a shop opens or an airship arrives and more.
It can be downloaded here: http://ffxi.xenoveritas.org/tools/vanaclock
That's a cool reason to use Firefox. And the update Microsoft made in IE about first clicking on a flash before you can click in it is also a good reason to use Firefox. So maybe I'll switch finally.
I use firefox because I like the idea of tabs - I disagree with people who claim that it is a better constructed code, because it isn't. IE is by far the more nurtured of the two, with an entire devision of Microsoft working on improving it and removing bugs - which are more commonly exploited in IE as it is a browser used by the majority, therefore a greater target for hackers.
alexanderpas
24-04-2006, 09:54
I disagree with people who claim that it is a better constructed code, because it isn't. IE is by far the more nurtured of the two, with an entire devision of Microsoft working on improving it and removing bugs - which are more commonly exploited in IE as it is a browser used by the majority, therefore a greater target for hackers.
okay.. i can directly say that statement is nonsense... and well for the following reasons
you can't see the code of IE (it's closed ource) but you can see the code of FF (being open-source) every major bug found in FF will get the one who finds it $500 there are known unfixed bugs in IE which haven't been fixed over a year IE fixes get only released one a week, firefox fixes directly! IE did have more than 2 bugfixes the last six months because there were loads o' bugs firefox has NO known unfixed bugs! IE has only one devision of ppl working on it... FF has the "whole" world working on it!!!
i use FF because it has a better pop-up blocker and u can customise its looks easier :p
alexanderpas
07-09-2006, 01:13
picture sais all:
http://img400.imageshack.us/img400/4838/fflove3gf.gif
IE tries to get back... but ill be a FF user!
Dark Sephiroth
07-09-2006, 17:18
i use mozilla firefox its a far more better popup blocker and i find it way cooler
FF <3 IE always seems to freeze my laptop ;~; Also, the pop-up blocker on FF is better.
Zidane007nl
23-10-2006, 21:59
I'm using Windows Internet Explorer 7 now. Its out of beta and has been officialy released lately. I agree with that they looked a lot at Firefox (IE has tabs with same command CTRL+click to open a link in a new tab). You have to get used to having the address bar at the top of the window and not the menu bar anymore. In starting-up time its a little slower then IE6 but still faster then FF.
I'm using Windows Internet Explorer 7 now. Its out of beta and has been officialy released lately. I agree with that they looked a lot at Firefox (IE has tabs with same command CTRL+click to open a link in a new tab). You have to get used to having the address bar at the top of the window and not the menu bar anymore. In starting-up time its a little slower then IE6 but still faster then FF.
While it's nice to see that MS is looking outside of their own box, their refusal to go open source is what kills them for me. And you'd think that with all the money they have, they could make a new box, rather than look into the boxes of others'.
Open Source Pros:
Customizable
Stable and bug-free (thousands of coders)
Innovative
If it's buggy, malicious, or plain old crappy, the program will just fall off the map!
Free
Open Source Cons:
..?
Closed Source Pros:
Uuuh, easy to find at your local overpriced retail store?
Closed Source Cons:
Restrictive
Buggy (small coding group)
Costly
99025451
24-10-2006, 18:13
copy it's crime a serious crima, i'm not kidding
Zidane007nl
24-10-2006, 23:31
copy it's crime a serious crima, i'm not kidding
Yeah, right. Maybe you should watch what you're saying. Every browser this days has a tab feature. Microsoft learns from his mistakes they had before.
Firefox 2.0 is officially released, and it has some very nice improvements over 1.5
It's noticeably faster to load (even on an 1.7 GHz laptop), and it even has an integrated spell checker =D
Defaults to American English, but you can easily add more dictionaries free from the Mozilla site (accessible from a "Add more dictionaries" menu item.
The search engine field is also vastly improved. First of all, the field is much bigger. Secondly, you can now remove search engines seamlessly from an own config interface.
Can't wait to install it on my home PC as well ^^
Zidane007nl
02-11-2006, 21:09
I'm just downloaded Mozilla Firefox 2.0 too. Maybe I'll use it more now. One thing I like about it is when I click on a link a new tab will open and not a new window like in IE7 and I don't have to hold CTRL for that. :)
Shuyin21
15-11-2006, 16:13
I use FIrefox. I like it better. But I do cross-browser when I bulid sites.
I have found that IE is good, it doesnt give me issues and if ut does there are always good updates, also netscape is notbad either.
Sephiroth912
18-11-2006, 23:44
I like Firefox better cuz it seems to load much faster than IE/AOL Explorer (both seem to be almost the same thing), however I use IE occassionally when certain things won't work on Firefox (Like Yahoo Launchcast, something I've generally enjoyed listening to)
I like Firefox better cuz it seems to load much faster than IE/AOL Explorer (both seem to be almost the same thing), however I use IE occassionally when certain things won't work on Firefox (Like Yahoo Launchcast, something I've generally enjoyed listening to)
Yeah i found the new IE slow and much slower then the older version, but my netscape seems fine, maybe they added too much new stuff to the new ie.
firefox gets my vote and is beter than my curunt network 'novell services' it is rubish my work has the same as my but with a fillter that is playing up i cant get on this site at all and it has spywere on it too;(
I use IE cause thats how i roll :P
NightWishNL
10-03-2007, 16:20
I use Firefox
Why because it has tabs wich IE has not until IE 7
And its better i read somewhere becuase Microsoft is slow at fixing bugs etc
Disgaeamad
11-03-2007, 23:11
I used to use Internet Explorer 7, but I recently swapped with Firefox 2.0. I really like it, especially the Favourites Bar, makes things a lot easier to access now.
Neither :D Opera for the win!
Though, if I had to choose I'd choose Firefox. But compared to Opera, Firefox is shite <_<
Firefox easily owns any other browser out there.
Suiko Jin
11-06-2007, 13:15
Firefox for me too. I never did enjoy IE... oh and since I have a Mac now... it is kinda hard to use IE now. >.>
Darkness seeker
11-06-2007, 14:02
IE i wolud say because it now stafer (IE7) and its beats all the Browers.
alexanderpas
12-06-2007, 22:54
IE i wolud say because it now stafer (IE7) and its beats all the Browers.are you sure???
http://blog.washingtonpost.com/securityfix/2006/12/clipboard_data_theft_optional.html
Firefox easily owns any other browser out there.
i agree firefox is faster and thats what i use
FinishingTouch15
08-04-2008, 03:25
Firefox all the way, it's security is miles better, plus you can have millions of different add-ons too.
ummm...i really don; see any difference...both run the same for me but IE works better for me with all the games and such i play online mozilla just kinda kills um or they don;t work...on the other hand mozilla has the better visuals for video and such so i don;t really care if i use either as long as i can get online
Firefox is the best there is.
RuneRifle
28-04-2008, 19:39
I use IE still... but i think i´m gonna change to firefox...
i use both....don't see a difernece except how the borders look.....plus...im to lazy to lazy to even try looking at the difference in browsers...
RuneRifle
29-04-2008, 12:25
well i downloaded firefox and now i'm using it :)
RedOctober
04-05-2008, 01:52
im using firefox....i used IE once though
RuneRifle
05-05-2008, 13:45
yeah... since i use firefox i think:
IE? whats IE? lol
firefox is nicer cuz u can change the skins and stuff :D
i like black more then white & grey lollers
RedOctober
05-05-2008, 23:13
I just use it because that's what came with the computer with IE and I used FF more before i got my PC so...
Dr. Aeyze
11-05-2008, 10:33
I use Safari a lot lately as well :x (Firefox is my normal browser, but I have IE7 installed too)
Only problem I have with it is I have to update my blogs in HTML rather then being lazy and using the short commands 'cause Safari doesn't seem to like them too much.
Whats Safari like, does it use tabs?
I use Firefox mainly, but I use Opera on pages that make my firefox crash, like SSL
Dr. Aeyze
11-05-2008, 23:31
Whats Safari like, does it use tabs?
I use Firefox mainly, but I use Opera on pages that make my firefox crash, like SSL
Ya, uses tabs, it's grown on me lately since my friends house is pretty much 9/10ths Macs (they have a lot of computers/laptops/things) and whenever my Firefox dies and I can't bring myself to use Internet Explorer (pretty much every time) I'll boot up Safari. I only have it since itunes decided I needed it on my laptop for no apparent reason but it turned out to be a handy automatic stupid download for once.
I use Mozilla Firefox. In my opinion, firefox is the best web browser. It is very user friendly. This web browser is faster, more secure, and fully customizable to online life. Firefox includes tabbed browsing, a spell checker, incremental find, live bookmarking, a download manager, and a search system that uses Google. Firefox runs on various versions of Microsoft Windows, Mac OS X, Linux, and many other Unix-like operating systems.
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