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Dale Anthony
02-10-2005, 12:52
Well, if no-one else was gonna post something new here I thought I would.

I didn't really check so sorry if there's previously been a similar thread and I've missed it but I just want to know what your views are on this.

What to YOU is love? And what to YOU is affection?

For everyone it's supposed to be something different, maybe this way we'll find out.

So fire away! :)

Chris
02-10-2005, 13:26
Love is hard to describe, its... something that you can 'share' with someone, like... their view on it is the same(ish) and it just.. works... I dunno.

Affection is the hugging stuff, and so on.

..::AJ::..
02-10-2005, 13:42
love is an emotion which makes people turn to saps, really....and i am one of those saps

affection is touching, and syaing nice things like.." chris....i love your hair :D"

i really do! ^^

Chris
02-10-2005, 14:08
love yours too :P

strange how we use "love" in the "affection" term...

gah, english language student alert *AWOOOOOGA*

that was supposed to be a siren..

Dale Anthony
02-10-2005, 14:13
lol. Hmm...okay, just because I'm an English Student doesn't mean you have to do that when I enter! (Kidding)...ahem...well Love and Affection are one of the same.

You can't really have affectionate hate so, I guess you need love in order to inspire Affection, blah blah. You get where I'm going to.

Love for me is just knowing you aren't alone and that someone will be there to love when you want to be with them.

Also it's kinda the bonding of two hearts. See...it's soppy lol.

Lei
02-10-2005, 14:15
Love...Kinda like, magic, except less silly.
I suppose it all comes down to peoples feelings, and its generally something which is hard to be defined, or put into words. But if you fall in love, or true love, or whatever, I'm sure you'd KNOW, hence how I've never been in love - I reckon I'll know when it hits me..BAM!
I do know though that I believe the person you were to fall in love with-would be your perfect imperfect. Say if you'd been down, or in trouble or whatever, I think love would make you feel that out of everyone in this world, that person would be there, like...your home. And he/she would basically make you melt. If you were with them, you'd feel like the happiest and safest person around.
So I thats love for me! Oh, and I believe in love at first site, though not complete love. Just like how it is possible to love someone completly, but have nothing returned, and viceversa. But then again, no man is worth your tears, and the one that isnt won't make you cry!!!!! :p So it's like...a very deep and sensitive feeling of affection towards someone, which attatches to a feeling of deep intense desire towards them too, therefore, creating love.

Affection, well.. To me affection is a moderate emotion, whether its towards a person, animal or object....A positive emotion, of course!

Chris
02-10-2005, 14:25
Of course, sometimes the things can mean nothing at all.

Nothing whatsoever.

Someone may say they love you, or like you, and then... no. They don't. They just used you so they could 'feel' love *coughLAURENcough*. Get your hopes up, make you all happy, then crush that.

Like my two exes, and other people since. I'm a sucker for this kinda stuff, and I always screw it up, and sure, Katie tells me "You're waiting for someone better" and "they're not worth it." But no, what if there isn't anyone better? What if they are worth it? What if I know there isn't? Then what do I do? Sit around and go "oh well shit happens!"?? Times like that, I don't know what to do. Which is how I am right now.

Really, in all honesty, the brutal truth of it all is:

Love and Affection are just words, sometimes they have meaning, but most of the time they don't.

Sorry to piss on this thread so heavily, but love and affection aren't always a good thing.

Dale Anthony
02-10-2005, 14:29
Nope, that's what the thread is for. Giving your opinions.

Love and Affection. The first has never occured to me at all of course, because it's only ever actually been Affection I've felt. I believe Love can only be used when two people feel the same, not otherwise. Although I guess there are other meanings.

katie
02-10-2005, 18:41
love is when you would do anything for the person. you would die to make them happy. theyre your first thought in the morning and your last thought at night. and nothing or nobody can tear you away from them.

affection is another form of love. shown by hugging and kissing and all that stuff. its more of a strong form of friendship.

for comparisons sake, i love hender, but i feel affection towards chris, and lei, and dale, and all my other friends.

Razorblade Kiss
02-10-2005, 23:25
To me Love is having a mutual bond that goes beyond liking someone. You feel love right down in your soul, and it's a gripping feeling. It's almost undescribable.

Affection? Kisses,hugs, things of that nature.

Dale Anthony
03-10-2005, 09:22
I like all the descriptions of what people think love is here, I think to most people love is practically the same thing, although they tend to go for it in different people.

I agree with that first thought in the morning, last thought at night thing. Because even without love if you like someone you tend to be like that. So I think it's safe to say you don't need love to think like that about someone, but still it's a sign I guess.

And Affection seems to be the same to everyone aswell.

TriggerHappi:D
03-10-2005, 09:42
Okay, here is some insight my young, adolescent mind. :D

Love, to me, is in many ways, a concept similar to obsession. Because, were it not for the similar aspects of obsession you can find in someone who is in "love", you wouldn't really have love. Think about it: Most of the things listed here are also the type of things someone in a state of obsession would do.
"First thought in the morning and last thought at night." That sounds kinda' [insert convicted stalker/serial killer]ish to me. So what I'm kinda' saying is, that love, for most at least, is very unhealthy.

As for affection, I think that's very important, too. Without affection, what would be the point of loving someone? You can't show your love for someone without an act of affection...So yeah.

There's some insight from my young, adolescent mind. :D

Dusk
03-10-2005, 10:02
I can't really explain it, it's one of those things for me you can't really pin point.
But I agree with pratically what everyone said in here, but for some people love is something more and others it's something less. But, it would be a pretty hard relationship if you didn't show any sort of affection, because affection is like feelings, without affection you really don't have feelings. Thats how I see it, most of the time anyway cause in some people it's hard to show affection or feelings especially if you've had a rough past..and i've just contradicted everything i've just said >__> *shuts up* XD

Grae
03-10-2005, 14:57
Love is different for everyone because we fall in love with different people for different reasons. We humans get happy with things, different things for different people, it's when we find people that can provide those things for us that we fall in love.

Dale Anthony
03-10-2005, 18:37
You know honestly Graeme, on the subject of providing for us...I really don't know what I want them to provide. That's probably because for what I want provide is too big a word to use.

I don't particularly want them to provide anything in my personal opinion...hmm...I'll have to think on what you just said there.

Chris
03-10-2005, 18:39
Everyone wants that someone to provide someone, otherwise you'll just get nothing from the relationship.

Dale Anthony
03-10-2005, 18:41
Yeah but I really don't understand. If I was to say I wanted them to provide something, that would almost make me sound...I dunno. Pushy? Bossy? A little out of order?

That might just be because I really don't think what I want could be "provided" as such, rather...accepted.

Chris
03-10-2005, 18:50
providing doesn't mean sex :P

Dale Anthony
03-10-2005, 18:52
That's not neccessarily what I'm refering to, but nevermind lol.

Grae
03-10-2005, 18:53
Well of course, you don't know til it hits you, lol. I know what I love, I know what personality traits I love, and I know that to love someone, she has to let me protect her, I have to provide for her, I have to always do my best to make her happy, sounds strange I know, but thats how it is for me. I know when I fall in love with someone I won't be living for myself, I'll be living for them, and I know if I give everything I have to them, mind body and soul they will complete me.

And by provide I don't mean sex, not at all. I mean feelings, affection, reactions to certain things. Waking up in the morning and them being the first person you see, resting your head to go to sleep at night and them being the last person you see before you fall asleep. All the big and little things that make you feel all warm and fuzzy inside, the things that make you happy, those that rovide that are the ones we will fall for.

Dale Anthony
03-10-2005, 18:57
Ahhhh! Makes more sense now actually Greame lol. Personality hmm...that's mattered to me more recently actually. But in terms of most things I don't really care what they WANT to provide me, cause I ain't too bothered about being provided for. As long as I can provide for them.

On the other hand though, and sorry to downgrade the mood, doesn't love not seem fictional sometimes? The World Today has too many break-ups and too little marriages. It almost seems like love is outta the window almost. Not to mention, too many people looking for the thing I hate! Unless it's as part of a LONG relationship lol.

Grae
03-10-2005, 19:09
Love can be a sucky idea sometimes, it seems so out of reach, and sometimes fictional. Especially when it hurts when you feel unloved, or when someone pretends to love you, or when the person you lvoe betrays you, when those feelings are hurt, it only knocks you further down the ladder.

The secret is not to fell in love with every girl you meet, but to keep your distance emotionally. Only when you know you can trust them (and this takes a long time for most people) then you can open yourself fully to them.

Trust me though, love exists, but it's not an immediate thing, and there are different levels. I'm definite I'm in love with someone right now, why? Because she makes me happy, she always brightens my day and she's always fun and carefree. I don't love her like I want to spend the rest of my life with her, but who knows, that might develop one day. It's never a good thing to be confused about your feelings.

Dale Anthony
03-10-2005, 19:14
I think you've just help me work out why that worries me. The whole waiting. I'm always worried that someone will come into the picture before I finally get my feelings out.

But you do have a point, wait until you trust them. By that time though, they usually pull out the "Good Friend" thing. Ah well, what the hell. That was a cool insight Greame, thanks for that :D.

Grae
03-10-2005, 19:19
NO! I HATE THAT

"Good friend"? It's a way of saying they don't like you like that, but thety can put up with you as long as they're not kissing you. Forget that! At least that's how I see it!

No! You can tell a girl you love her even if you don't fully mean it, you can't let them get away like that. I mean you can love them, but your feelings can always grow, so it's not lying. Lets say it's the first stage of love. Don't be afraid to say to a girl you love them. be affectionate, try to get closer as time goes on. Do what you can to keep them from feeling the relationship is going nowhere.

That doesn't mean lying, but like I said, theres nothing wrong with tellign a girl you love them, if things are going well you should be able to be at the first stage of love within a few short weeks.

Just remember, telling a girl you love them is not the be all and end all of a relationship.

Dale Anthony
03-10-2005, 19:24
That makes sense yeah. Well I'll remember that for sure. Thanks very much ^_^.

This was originally just a general topic but I couldn't help but ask, thanks :D.

Grae
03-10-2005, 19:26
No problem, if I can ever help with girl (or guy troubles) just ask me and I'll try and help as much as I can, I really do care, and it's not like I just pour this crap out of a bucket, I really do think about it a lot.

Rusty2006
09-04-2006, 06:37
To love is to charish, and to charish to love, in basic words love is worth charishing.
_ Rusty2006

Also, that is no lie, not that I am married or have a girlfriend, but at least I what it is to love.

My younger brother thinks love is nailing a chick, which it actually is, but that is a whole other conversion.